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The Beatles and the English Music-Hall tradition

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Post  felix Wed Jun 01, 2011 10:39 pm

^ sadly, now gorn, shuffled off this mortal wotsit - the cache is no more Sad
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Post  Nah Ville Sky Chick Fri Jun 10, 2011 12:48 am

Oh, and I missed it first time around The Beatles and the English Music-Hall tradition 2767013252
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Post  felix Fri Jun 10, 2011 1:29 am

It was good, Nash, it was bloomin' good. What a classic thread you missed. I say, what a classic thread! cat
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Post  Nah Ville Sky Chick Fri Jun 10, 2011 1:50 am



Did it include clips like this? 1974? Someone has obviously filmed their dodgy telly?
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Post  felix Wed Jun 15, 2011 12:09 am

^ I don't remember quite honestly, Nash! No But I do recall it was a n interesting read...

Here's what wiki has to say in its 'music hall' article:

Music hall had a profound influence on The Beatles through Paul McCartney, who is himself the son of a music hall performer (Jim McCartney, who led Jim Mac's Jazz Band). Many of McCartney's songs are indistinguishable from music hall except in their instrumentation. When I'm Sixty-Four and Honey Pie are two fine examples, as is Your Mother Should Know.

and the wiki entry on the Beatles' 'All Together Now' says:

"All Together Now" is a song by The Beatles written primarily by Paul McCartney and credited to Lennon/McCartney. The song was recorded during the band's Magical Mystery Tour period, but remained unreleased until it was included on the Yellow Submarine soundtrack.

McCartney described the song as a children's sing-along with the title phrase inspired by the music hall tradition of asking the audience to join in.

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Post  felix Wed Jun 15, 2011 1:51 am

It shouldn't be forgotten that the Fab Four played twice at The Music Hall in Shrewsbury!

Here's a poster from their first gig there in December 1962:

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Post  eddie Wed Jun 15, 2011 3:47 am

^

Neither should it be forgotten that in their early mainstream TV showbiz career The Beatles were just another novelty act in the dying days of the English music hall. (Its slow death was recorded on stage by Angry Young Man John Osborne in his play "The Entertainer", in which the decline of the English music hall stood as a metaphor for the dying days of the British Empire).

Anyone old enough to remember "Saturday Night at the London Palladium" will recall that they topped the bill after the jugglers, the poodles leaping through hoops of fire, the Memory Man and the Tiller Girls (a troupe of leggy female dancers).

The Fab Four- lovable mop-tops as they were back then- had no qualms about appearing on the revolving stage to wave 'bye bye' to the folks watching at home for the traditional finale of the show, but The Rolling Stones (bad boys, as they were) refused to participate, thus creating what passed in those innocent days for a National Scandal.

One only has to look at Peter Blake's "Sgnt. Pepper" cover or listen to "Being for the Benefit of Mr Kite" to grasp how deeply involved The Beatles were ( in the Beatlemania years) in the English music-hall tradition.
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Post  eddie Sat Jul 02, 2011 1:46 am

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The poster for Pablo Fanque's Circus Royal which inspired the lyrics for "Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite!"
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