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Post  pinhedz on Wed Jun 26, 2013 7:45 am

Saints preserve us Shocked

[... just wanted to say that]

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Post  specialman on Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:42 am

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Post  woo on Thu Jun 27, 2013 7:04 am

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Post  specialman on Thu Jun 27, 2013 7:32 am

that's Amanda not of the trailer hood! drunken


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Post  woo on Fri Jun 28, 2013 2:06 pm

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Post  specialman on Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:27 pm

hmm


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Post  woo on Sat Jun 29, 2013 10:51 am

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Post  specialman on Wed Jul 03, 2013 12:05 am

The reason for this letter is to ask you a favour; you are jailed, I'm outside...but we share the air and sun, the night and day



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Post  specialman on Wed Jul 03, 2013 1:26 am

specialman wrote:
I didn't know about you, now I do. You didn't know about me, now you do. And from now on this mere letter has linked us together


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Post  specialman on Wed Jul 03, 2013 2:10 am






I don't speak English, the only English I know is for the old ladies when they come hoping I will help them with the shopping bags. It is then that I say: "I understand, señora!"


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Post  pinhedz on Wed Jul 03, 2013 8:06 am

"Qué heavy eres."

What language is that? scratch 

I think that Grushchenka might be an Almovodar girl, even if she is a bit Russkiish.

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Post  pinhedz on Wed Jul 03, 2013 8:10 am

Grushchenka is hard to describe, she's kind of like this:


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Post  woo on Wed Jul 03, 2013 11:07 am

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Post  Yakima Canutt on Wed Jul 03, 2013 1:20 pm

Is that Kika the one where the lady wears a camera on her head?  I didn't really see what was the big deal about Almodovar but then my Brazilian neighbor, Ricardo, showed me this one wherein Javier Bardem was like a cripple who played wheelchair basketball or something and it was a pretty funny flick I guess.

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Post  woo on Fri Jul 12, 2013 6:17 am

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Post  Old Mack on Fri Jul 12, 2013 10:31 am

Woo wrote:...Seinfeld...

I'm missing that gene !

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Post  pinhedz on Fri Jul 12, 2013 2:28 pm

Woo wrote:I've left Penelope for Catalina. How could I not after watching Pirates 4. What a piece of pooh that is.    
Does Penelope know you left her? Razz

Anyways, wasn't she 10 months pregnant during Pirates 4?

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Post  woo on Sat Jul 13, 2013 4:42 am

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Post  Yakima Canutt on Tue Jul 16, 2013 8:53 pm

It's hard to imagine the Enterprise sans Chief Engineer, Mr. Scott. James Doohan's performance as the irritable Scotsman was a fixture of the franchise for over thirty years. Doohan played the character in all three seasons of the original series, both seasons of the animated series, the first seven feature films, an episode The Next Generation, three video games, and a number of television commercials. In popular culture, the character's name has been immortalized by the phrase, 'beam me up, Scotty,' even if those exact words were never uttered on the show.

In light of this, it might come as a surprise to learn that, shortly after NBC picked up the program, series creator and producer Gene Roddenberry sent Doohan a letter explaining that he wouldn't be picking up the actor's option for the series. The actor later recalled this incident in his memoir:

 !!!Three or four days after hearing that the pilot had sold, I got a letter from Gene Roddenberry saying, 'Thanks very much, but we don't really think we're going to need an engineer.' I think they were probably trying to save money. I got the letter about eleven o'clock in the morning, and I called my agent, Paul Wilkins. Paul was pissed because the letter should have gone to the agent. He said, 'You just wait there. We'll see about this.' I could tell from the tone of his voice and the pauses he took that he was trying to hold his temper.

   He went to Gene Roddenberry and Herb Solow, Herb being the executive in charge of production on behalf of Desilu. Paul was not one who was easily ignored. He was six foot two, with silvery dark hair. Then Paul called me and said, 'You're back on the show.' I didn't have a commitment for 'every show produced'; they only signed me up for some of the episodes.

   --James Doohan with Peter David, Beam Me Up, Scotty (1996), p.127-128.

Herbert F. Solow and Robert H. Justman's Inside : The Real Story elaborates on on Roddenberry's decision to release Doohan from his contract:

   Doohan was confused by Roddenberry's direct communication and informed his agent, Paul Wilkins, that apparently he'd been fired. Wilkins became irate and met with Roddenberry, and by the close of business that same day, Doohan was returned to the Enterprise engine room. Millions of fans should be thankful to Paul Wilkins for getting Doohan back on board. NBC was unaware of Roddenberry's attempt to fire Doohan.

   --Herb Solow and Bob Justman, Inside : The Real Story (1996), p.153.

Archival evidence shows that these accounts are mostly correct.  In a letter dated April 11, 1966, Gene Roddenberry wrote to James Doohan:

   Dear Jim:  

   As you probably know by now, STREK will be on the air this coming September.
   Due to changes in format, budget structure, and character concepts, we cannot pick up a number of options, including yours. But we do hope that “Engineering Officer Scott” will reappear in future stories and hope we will be fortunate enough to find you interested and available at that time.  

   Let me thank you for your important contribution in the making of the STREK pilot. As mentioned many times before, I value your talent and ability highly and it will always be a particular pleasure for me when we are able to work together.  

   Cordially yours,
   Gene Roddenberry

Although Doohan remembered receiving Roddenberry's letter 'three or four days' after learning the second pilot had been sold, in truth this more likely happened four or five weeks after he first heard the news.  Daily Variety reported that NBC had picked up the program as early as March 1, 1966, and repeated the news on March 11 and March 15.  Since it's unlikely that Doohan (and his agent) ignored the Hollywood trade papers, the actor must have simply misremembered the order of events. Solow and Justman's book claims the meeting between Paul Wilkins and Roddenberry returned Doohan to the series in one day; Doohan's book suggests a similar timeline, but claims the meeting was between Wilkins, Roddenberry, and Solow. Whoever the participants of that meeting, the official deal between Doohan and Desilu wasn't finalized until six weeks later on May 19, 1966.  On that date, casting director Joe D'Agosta wrote a memo to Desilu business affairs attorney Ed Perlstein:

   James Doohan has agreed to work on the television series 'Strek' on a non-exclusive basis subject to his availability. He will appear as the recurring character, Scott, for a guaranteed salary of $850 for six days and a guarantee of five shows out of the first thirteen shows.

Obviously, Roddenberry had miscalculated the program's 'change in format.' Out of the first thirteen episodes produced (including the second pilot), Doohan appeared in a total of eight shows, three more than he was initially guaranteed, and as many episodes as series regulars George Takei and Grace Lee Whitney appeared in. Owing to the character's usefulness, Roddenberry had Joe D'Agosta negotiate another 'handshake' agreement with Doohan's agent. Per a memo from D'Agosta to Roddenberry, that deal was finalized on November 11, 1966, guaranteeing the actor another five shows for the first season (again at a rate of $850 for six days per show). In addition, the deal had a provision for extra shows, if Doohan's scenes were scheduled to be completed in less than five days:

   If we use Jim less than six days, we may hire him at the following rates: These shows, however, are not to be included in the guarantee.

   One day 300.00
   Two days 500.00
   Three days 600.00
   Four days 700.00

   If he is originally scheduled to work one to four days and in fact works five or six days, he is to be paid a pro rata of the salary and the show will not be included in the guarantee.

By the end of the first season, Doohan had appeared in a total of 15 episodes, and the producers decided to sign him to an exclusive, four-year contract, as indicated by this March 16, 1967 memo from Joe D'Agosta to Ed Perlstein:

   I am happy to advise you that James Doohan has signed an exclusive contract with Desilu for the 1967/1968 broadcast season for three subsequent years after this year on a nine out of 13 of each 13 programs produced and pro rata for cycles of less than 13 shows terminable by Desilu at the end of any 13-program cycle.  

   The compensation which is for up to five consecutive days work per episode is:  

   First Year: $ 850
   Second Year: $1,100
   Third Year: $1,350
   Fourth Year: $1,600

   Billing is at Producer’s discretion.

Doohan would continue to appear in more episodes than his contract guaranteed him. By the end of the series he had appeared in a total of 66 of the show's 79 episodes, which wasn't a bad run for an actor who was almost dismissed before Strek even premiered on television. It remains unclear why Roddenberry chose to release Doohan in the first place; even less understandable is why Roddenberry chose to break the news directly to the actor rather than through his agent, which was and is the standard practice in Hollywood. Perhaps, as Doohan speculated, it was a way of cutting costs, although given the number of first season shows which included Doohan, this was almost certainly unsuccessful. It is also possible that Roddenberry made the mistake of bypassing Doohan's agent out of inexperience; after all, before Strek, he had only produced a handful of pilots and a series which lasted only one season, The Lieutenant.

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Post  woo on Wed Jul 17, 2013 4:23 am

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Post  pinhedz on Mon Aug 05, 2013 7:47 am

I have just confirmed that Alwyn ap Huw Humphreys has a stronger claim to Vaner Farm (aka Y Faner, Llaneltyd) than the pinhed. Neutral 

It's a good thing I found work in America. Smile

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Post  e.g. on Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:00 pm

I've found Data to be the most compelling Star Trek character for me-- just from paying disorderly attention to some user's posts (never seen it, maybe as a child sometime but I'm not sure...I think I was afraid of Spock)

Anything I should know?  


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Post  Yakima Canutt on Sun Aug 11, 2013 8:21 pm

Data was conceived to be the android Spock character on the new sho, but ended up being basically a really smart Pinocchio: he's trying to be more human-like so he does stuff like paint and learn jokes and he takes care of his cat, Spot.  He was portrayed by Brent Spiner, a Jew from Texas who did a lot of theatur and musical theatur work before he broke into TV like early roles which found him playing a yokel on the sitcom Harry Dean Anderson's Night Court.  

In the NextGen flims, they have Data malfunctioning and going haywire a lot, which maybe wasn't the best idea.  Data was NOT made by the Federation or Starfleet, he was made by a kooky scientist and Starfleet found him, so there aren't other Data-like androids in Starfleet, and Data went thru the officer training programme at the academy just like everyone else.

And then he was serving on the Enterprise and this Fed scientist came and said, "hey I'm taking Data because I want to study him."  And Data is all "no I have rights."  And the scientist says, "no you don't, we have to learn how to make more of you."  And so they have a hearing where Data and Picard prove that Data is a sentient conscious being or whatever.

Actually there is one other android like Data, it is Data's evil twin who is named "LOre" ... he was made before Data by Dr. Soong but Dr. Soong made LOre too human so LOre turned out to be an asshole, but Data is a lot nicer because Dr. Soong made Data less human.  

Then in the last Next Gen flim you find out there is an even earlier prototype named B-4, and he is like a retarded dumb version of Data, but pretty harmless I guess.  Dr. Soong made the androids in his image so Brent Spiner also plays Dr. Soong but with a lot of old man makeup and a funny voice.

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Post  Yakima Canutt on Sun Aug 11, 2013 8:28 pm

Oh also one time Data tried to make a daughter android but she didn't really fit in and then she malfunctioned and got over-emotional and suffered an irreversible cascade failure.


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Post  pinhedz on Mon Aug 12, 2013 3:32 am

The White House says that Congress was "fully informed" about NSA surveillance.

Congress says: "HUH?" Shocked 

That's because Congress never reads any of the stuff submitted to them. Rolling Eyes 

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