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Post  tatiana on Sun Sep 04, 2011 7:57 pm

blue moon wrote:...I remember it feeling like a giant barn...we were way up the back. I'd never heard of Lou Reed. I was just tagging along with a gaggle of excited friends. Lou was just a tiny figure on the stage in dark glasses. He did Walk on the Wild Side.. I never forgot him after that.


just going back to this photo for a minute.....
this is exactly how that room looked the last time i was there.
lol!

no seriously.....we used to go to the Festival Hall to see the wrestling, as shown in your picture
and yes, a giant barn woudl be a good description.

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Re: Lou Reed

Post  Guest on Thu Sep 08, 2011 8:19 am

If you enter his site http://www.loureed.com you first see this poster



in detail. And if you "continue to loureed.com" you discover he's made an album called Lulu with Metallica. I don't like Metallica but I want to know what that sounds like.



""Lulu" was inspired by German expressionist writer Frank Wedekind's plays "Earth Spirit" and "Pandora's Box," which tell a story of a young abused dancer's life and relationships and are now collectively known as the "Lulu Plays." Since their publication in the early 1900's, the plays have been the inspiration for a silent film ("Pandora's Box," 1929), an opera, and countless other creative endeavors. Originally the lyrics and musical landscape were sketched out by Lou for a theatrical production in Berlin, but after coming together with the 'Tallica boys for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame concerts in New York in 2009 all guilty parties knew they wanted to make more music together. Lou was inspired enough by that performance to recently ask the band to join him in taking his theatrical "Lulu" piece to the next level and so starting in early May of this year we were all camped out recording at HQ studios in Northern California, bringing us to today and ten complete songs."

Lou Reed and Metallica in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame concert in 2009 playing Sweet Jane:



The audience booed him until he made that sign or what? scratch

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Re: Lou Reed

Post  Andy on Sat Sep 10, 2011 3:13 am

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I read something too. But I think I heard Andy saying that he's not good live these days Question

I might have said something that could be interpreted as such, though it surely would need to be nuanced.
In july I saw Lou for the 10th time in concert - I honestly enjoyed each and every one of those concerts and would go out to see him tomorrow if he came anywhere near me. He's the only artist I've travelled for - it's in fact a bit of a tradition between me and my partner.
Our first trip was to Paris, when we were still very young gay lovers -a trip in 2005 to go and see Lou perform over there.
Since then we've also been to Berlin and Lyon to catch a Lou performance.

Lately Lou has been playing all instrumental free form noise shows.
I saw him perform one such a show at a jazz festival here in Antwerp with his wife Laurie Anderson and John Zorn.
I also saw him with his MM3 at the AB club in Brussels, about a year later.
This type of performances should come with a clear warning - the second one did! - to the audience: it's a type of music that has some genuine ties to his back catalogue, even from the earliest days of the VU onwards, but this is a fact known ony to people who know his work thoroughly and appreciated by even less.

This summer I was genuinely suprised by Lou's performance in a positive sense.
Old age and health issues have affected some aspects of the rock 'n' roll animal, but he's rather well aware of what he can and can't do.
It's nothing like Dylan who'se basically embarissing himself publicly by maltreatement of his finest work.
But in some fields he obviously is less dynamic than he used to be - he seemed to have aged rather dramatically in just 4 years time, possibly due to diabetes.

Still, there's no living artist I admire anywhere near as much as him.

Just how beautiful is this:



Oh, right: he has 2 new guitar players, one of whom is called Aram Bajakian - he plays the lead theme on 'Ecstasy''.
He's a really good guitar player - check out his outro work on a song like 'Waves of fear' -, incredibly enthusiastic, even quite sexy.
He also has a record called out on Zorn's Tzadik-label called Keff, which is a trio of guitar, violin and bass doing current renditions of traditional Armenian stuff. I like it quite a bit.

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Re: Lou Reed

Post  Andy on Sat Sep 10, 2011 3:26 am

Here's Aram Bajakian getting off on his guitar during the Lyon show I attended:


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Re: Lou Reed

Post  Andy on Sat Sep 10, 2011 3:37 am

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From "Magic & Loss", an album that deals with death much.

I'm not sure if it deals with death, though I understand why you say so.
A few years I ago I read an article - maybe it was in a collection of lyrics - of how he came to write Magic & Loss.
People often know half of the tale: the deaths of Doc Pomus and Rotten Rita, 2 people close to Lou.
But what's much less known is that Lou incorporated stuff he had already written with something very different in mind.

Appartenly he had been reading about shamanism and got intruiged by the claim of some of these people that they were capable of physically disappearing while remaining present in their communities. This rather bizar notion apparently set him of to write some stuff which was focussed on that theme of presence and absence. It's also why it's called [i]Magic & loss[i], the magic litteraly refers to something that's passed off as such.

If you'll relisten to the album, you'll find the theme of presence and absence to be at its very core!

It's one of my all time favorite albums.
Though, as often, Lou got more criticism than praise for it.

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Re: Lou Reed

Post  tatiana on Sat Sep 10, 2011 10:18 am

^^^^^

Andy, i assumed you were going to the Lyon concert, because of what you had said in our Blue Eyes conversation in June....
but i was uncertain, so i didn't say anything to asdf.

i wish i could see him in concert. Cool

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Re: Lou Reed

Post  tatiana on Sat Sep 10, 2011 10:25 am

Andy wrote:Here's Aram Bajakian getting off on his guitar during the Lyon show I attended:


that is so good. Cool



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Re: Lou Reed

Post  tatiana on Sat Sep 10, 2011 10:29 am

Andy wrote:
asdf wrote:
From "Magic & Loss", an album that deals with death much.

I'm not sure if it deals with death, though I understand why you say so.
A few years I ago I read an article - maybe it was in a collection of lyrics - of how he came to write Magic & Loss.
People often know half of the tale: the deaths of Doc Pomus and Rotten Rita, 2 people close to Lou.
But what's much less known is that Lou incorporated stuff he had already written with something very different in mind.

Appartenly he had been reading about shamanism and got intruiged by the claim of some of these people that they were capable of physically disappearing while remaining present in their communities. This rather bizar notion apparently set him of to write some stuff which was focussed on that theme of presence and absence. It's also why it's called Magic & loss, the magic litteraly refers to something that's passed off as such.

If you'll relisten to the album, you'll find the theme of presence and absence to be at its very core!

It's one of my all time favorite albums.
Though, as often, Lou got more criticism than praise for it.

i will listen to it later, with your words nearby, and see how it sounds then.....

cheers Andy.
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Re: Lou Reed

Post  tatiana on Sat Sep 10, 2011 10:32 am

^^^^

it is bright and early on Saturday morning here, so a talk about Lou Reed has to be a fine way to start a weekend.... Cool

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Re: Lou Reed

Post  tatiana on Sat Sep 10, 2011 10:47 pm

i wonder if Andy and I read the same Lou Reed stuff on facebook....

http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Lou-Reed/211254343633

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Post  Guest on Mon Sep 12, 2011 11:54 pm

I didn't really write "Magic & Loss" deals with death because two Lou's friends died. He seems to write about facing death all through the album.

It's very interesting to know he had been reading about shamanism.

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Re: Lou Reed

Post  Guest on Sun Sep 25, 2011 11:30 pm

asdf wrote:he's made an album called Lulu with Metallica. I don't like Metallica but I want to know what that sounds like.


I think I won't like it...

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Post  Guest on Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:58 am

From an interview to Isabelle Huppert

"You know sometimes," she says, apropos of nothing, "you can meet people that you admire, or you know through their work, and it's not necessarily a pleasant experience."

"Lou Reed," I volunteer.

"Lou Reed," she says, "is a very nice man."

Eight syllables, I tell her, that I have never heard in that order before.

"Well, Lou Reed was nice to me. He came to see me on stage a couple of times. Then I met him in Paris."

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Post  Guest on Fri Oct 21, 2011 10:13 pm



We can't say they're not brave

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Re: Lou Reed

Post  Andy on Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:42 am

It's streaming at their website right now.
I have only listened to 'The view' and the first 2 or 3 minutes of the openig tune - whatever that is called.
Needless to say that if a Lou Reed freak like myself hasn't jumped to the oportunity to check it out more substantially, it's because I'm not falling in love with the stuff.
Some Lou Reed fan are extatic. What I've heard so far, in my opinion, is really not very good to put it nicely.

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Re: Lou Reed

Post  Dick Fitzwell on Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:48 am

Why would Metallica make an album with Lou Reed? He sucks.

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Post  pinhedz on Mon Oct 24, 2011 11:03 am

Thre first musical treatment of "Lulu" dates from 1935:

http://acrosstheuniverse.forummotion.com/t1174-alban-berg-s-lulu#14652

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Re: Lou Reed

Post  Dick Fitzwell on Mon Oct 24, 2011 3:20 pm

I listened to something (I don't remember what) and is it just me or does Lou Reed sound just like Ric Ocasek but worse?

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Post  Dick Fitzwell on Mon Oct 24, 2011 3:24 pm

You guys should all give Master of Puppets or Ride the Lightning a spin

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Post  Guest on Mon Oct 24, 2011 7:28 pm

I don't like it either. The worst part I think are Lou's vocals... he sings like too "rigid"...

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Post  tatiana on Mon Oct 24, 2011 8:54 pm

i didn't like it very much either.

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Post  pinhedz on Tue Oct 25, 2011 12:47 am

Paladin wrote:I listened to something (I don't remember what) and is it just me or does Lou Reed sound just like Ric Ocasek but worse?
It sounds like his old Velvet-Underground Bob-Dylan-imitation voice.

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Re: Lou Reed

Post  Andy on Tue Oct 25, 2011 2:12 am

asdf wrote: he sings like too "rigid"...

That's not true: he just doesn't sing at all.
He sounds like an old man reading words from a page.


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Post  pinhedz on Tue Oct 25, 2011 3:41 am

Andy wrote:He sounds like an old man reading words from a page.
That's what I said--his Bob Dylan imitation. Razz

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Re: Lou Reed

Post  Andy on Tue Oct 25, 2011 4:13 am

Dylan sounds like a muppet who had too much to drink reading a spanish newspaper. bounce

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