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Post  Nah Ville Sky Chick on Thu Feb 02, 2012 6:07 am

How did you get there, do you know?

I have just started reading The Fatal Shore and it occured to me that I had never asked any of you?

Are you recent arrivals, if not, when did your people arrive and where were they from?

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Post  pinhedz on Thu Feb 02, 2012 8:00 am

This might be an indelicate question.

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Post  Old Mack on Thu Feb 02, 2012 6:28 pm

I had that book and never got to read it...I lent it to someone and forgot who it was. I got it thru a book club.


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Post  Nah Ville Sky Chick on Thu Feb 02, 2012 9:29 pm

pinhedz wrote:This might be an indelicate question.

Yes, I know silent

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Post  Nah Ville Sky Chick on Thu Feb 02, 2012 9:36 pm

Old Mack wrote:I had that book and never got to read it...I lent it to someone and forgot who it was. I got it thru a book club.


It looks like a good read so far, may be worth getting it out from your library?

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Post  Guest on Thu Feb 02, 2012 9:55 pm

Nah Ville Sky Chick wrote:
pinhedz wrote:This might be an indelicate question.

Yes, I know silent
why?
I once asked Moony where her ancestors came from...

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Post  eddie on Fri Feb 03, 2012 12:11 am

Nah Ville Sky Chick wrote:The Fatal Shore

Highly recommended by the late Patrick O'Brian (see Literature section thread) who used it as a source for that section of his Aubrey-Maturin roman fleuve set in the Botany Bay penal colony. If the secondary POB account- which is all I know- is any guide, conditions there were absolutely horrific: chains, floggings, forced labour etc etc. It's a wonder that present-day Aussies want anything to do with the mother country at all.

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Post  pinhedz on Fri Feb 03, 2012 1:56 am

Vera Cruz wrote:
Nah Ville Sky Chick wrote:
pinhedz wrote:This might be an indelicate question.

Yes, I know silent
why?
I once asked Moony where her ancestors came from...
Australia is the place where the English used to send people for being larrikins, or Irish, or other socially unacceptable types.

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Post  pinhedz on Fri Feb 03, 2012 1:59 am

And rock musicians--they were sent there, too:


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Post  Nah Ville Sky Chick on Fri Feb 03, 2012 2:02 am

We liked to send women there too What a Face

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Post  Nah Ville Sky Chick on Fri Feb 03, 2012 2:05 am



I wonder what this pair did?

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Post  eddie on Fri Feb 03, 2012 2:20 am

Nah Ville Sky Chick wrote:We liked to send women there too What a Face

Good play on the subject:



Acted in it once, playing the brutal Sergeant-at-Arms character.

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Post  Nah Ville Sky Chick on Fri Feb 03, 2012 2:37 am

^^

Excellent, what fun playing a baddie.

Wasn't set on one of those brothel ships was it?

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Post  pinhedz on Fri Feb 03, 2012 2:40 am

Stop me before I post again. affraid


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Post  pinhedz on Fri Feb 03, 2012 2:48 am

Kris Kristofferson failed to sing the 3rd verse:

Madam Marie loves the men from the sea
She says that they're good for business
Her daughters are found in a section of town
Known for a certain rudeness

Then the cops paid a call, and the judge says, "That's all
It's time for a new profession"
Marie laughed out loud, and in front of the crowd
Says, "Judge, will you answer this question:"

Refrain:
Was your grandma a whore, was your grandpa a thief,
Were they forgers and grafters who fell to their grief?
If you're born of Australia, I know who ya be
You're the son of a son of a scoundrel like me

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Post  Nah Ville Sky Chick on Fri Feb 03, 2012 3:03 am

^^

I enjoyed that, never heard it before. I wouldn't have known it was Kris, sounded more like The Wurzles Shocked

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Post  pinhedz on Fri Feb 03, 2012 3:09 am

Bob Dylan stole this song from The Bushwackers.

They successfully sued him. Razz cheers


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Post  eddie on Fri Feb 03, 2012 6:16 am

Nah Ville Sky Chick wrote:Wasn't set on one of those brothel ships was it?

A fair amount of hanky-panky, but not a 'brothel ship' as such. I'm not quite sure what that means. One ship in a fleet of transports designated as a brothel?

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Post  eddie on Fri Feb 03, 2012 6:20 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lM5x3TJpP24
South Australia- The Pogues.

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Post  Nah Ville Sky Chick on Fri Feb 03, 2012 6:27 am

^^

Hi Eddie

I only know of one ship The Lady Juliana, but there were possibly more? It was an all female convict ship that went to Botany Bay in 1789 carrying 237 women and was known as the floating brothel.

The prisoners would sleep with the crew, I expect they got privileges that way?

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Post  eddie on Fri Feb 03, 2012 6:31 am

Nah Ville Sky Chick wrote:I only know of one ship The Lady Juliana, but there were possibly more? It was an all female convict ship that went to Botany Bay in 1789 carrying 237 women and was known as the floating brothel.

The prisoners would sleep with the crew, I expect they got privileges that way?

Sounds like this must have been the source of Steve Gooch's play.

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Post  Doc Watson on Fri Feb 03, 2012 10:30 am

Nah Ville Sky Chick wrote:How did you get there, do you know?

I have just started reading The Fatal Shore and it occured to me that I had never asked any of you?

Are you recent arrivals, if not, when did your people arrive and where were they from?

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The first member of my family to come to Australia arrived in the first fleet. He was a convict who had stolen an iron bar.

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Post  pinhedz on Fri Feb 03, 2012 11:20 am

Doc Watson wrote:The first member of my family to come to Australia arrived in the first fleet. He was a convict who had stolen an iron bar.
That's unusual--what did he need the iron bar for? scratch

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Post  Doc Watson on Fri Feb 03, 2012 2:49 pm

pinhedz wrote:
Doc Watson wrote:The first member of my family to come to Australia arrived in the first fleet. He was a convict who had stolen an iron bar.
That's unusual--what did he need the iron bar for? scratch
We have no idea , possibly being arrested meant he did not get into troble for a worse crime.

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Post  Guest on Fri Feb 03, 2012 3:25 pm

...Mum's parents came over as 'ten-pound poms' in about 1909 or thereabouts, from Liverpool / Manchester.
I'm not sure where Dad's side of the family is from.

..it's funny (ironic) that probably in the early days of settlement, the emancipted convicts wanted to remove themselves from the stigma and stain of their convict heritage, yet now, most people tracing their ancestry hope they are descended from the convicts, rather than from figures of authority.




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