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Post  Nah Ville Sky Chick Thu Feb 02, 2012 6:07 am

How did you get there, do you know?

I have just started reading The Fatal Shore and it occured to me that I had never asked any of you?

Are you recent arrivals, if not, when did your people arrive and where were they from?

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Post  Old Mack Thu Feb 02, 2012 6:28 pm

I had that book and never got to read it...I lent it to someone and forgot who it was. I got it thru a book club.

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Post  Nah Ville Sky Chick Thu Feb 02, 2012 9:29 pm

pinhedz wrote:This might be an indelicate question. Australian ATU'ers 1614483555

Yes, I know silent
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Post  Nah Ville Sky Chick Thu Feb 02, 2012 9:36 pm

Old Mack wrote:I had that book and never got to read it...I lent it to someone and forgot who it was. I got it thru a book club.


It looks like a good read so far, may be worth getting it out from your library?
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Post  Guest Thu Feb 02, 2012 9:55 pm

Nah Ville Sky Chick wrote:
pinhedz wrote:This might be an indelicate question. Australian ATU'ers 1614483555

Yes, I know silent
why?
I once asked Moony where her ancestors came from...

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Post  eddie Fri Feb 03, 2012 12:11 am

Nah Ville Sky Chick wrote:The Fatal Shore

Highly recommended by the late Patrick O'Brian (see Literature section thread) who used it as a source for that section of his Aubrey-Maturin roman fleuve set in the Botany Bay penal colony. If the secondary POB account- which is all I know- is any guide, conditions there were absolutely horrific: chains, floggings, forced labour etc etc. It's a wonder that present-day Aussies want anything to do with the mother country at all.
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Post  Nah Ville Sky Chick Fri Feb 03, 2012 2:02 am

We liked to send women there too What a Face
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Post  Nah Ville Sky Chick Fri Feb 03, 2012 2:05 am

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I wonder what this pair did?
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Post  eddie Fri Feb 03, 2012 2:20 am

Nah Ville Sky Chick wrote:We liked to send women there too What a Face

Good play on the subject:

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Acted in it once, playing the brutal Sergeant-at-Arms character.
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Post  Nah Ville Sky Chick Fri Feb 03, 2012 2:37 am

^^

Excellent, what fun playing a baddie.

Wasn't set on one of those brothel ships was it?
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Post  Nah Ville Sky Chick Fri Feb 03, 2012 3:03 am

^^

I enjoyed that, never heard it before. I wouldn't have known it was Kris, sounded more like The Wurzles Shocked
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Post  eddie Fri Feb 03, 2012 6:16 am

Nah Ville Sky Chick wrote:Wasn't set on one of those brothel ships was it?

A fair amount of hanky-panky, but not a 'brothel ship' as such. I'm not quite sure what that means. One ship in a fleet of transports designated as a brothel?
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Post  eddie Fri Feb 03, 2012 6:20 am

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Post  Nah Ville Sky Chick Fri Feb 03, 2012 6:27 am

^^

Hi Eddie

I only know of one ship The Lady Juliana, but there were possibly more? It was an all female convict ship that went to Botany Bay in 1789 carrying 237 women and was known as the floating brothel.

The prisoners would sleep with the crew, I expect they got privileges that way?
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Post  eddie Fri Feb 03, 2012 6:31 am

Nah Ville Sky Chick wrote:I only know of one ship The Lady Juliana, but there were possibly more? It was an all female convict ship that went to Botany Bay in 1789 carrying 237 women and was known as the floating brothel.

The prisoners would sleep with the crew, I expect they got privileges that way?

Sounds like this must have been the source of Steve Gooch's play.
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Post  Guest Fri Feb 03, 2012 10:30 am

Nah Ville Sky Chick wrote:How did you get there, do you know?

I have just started reading The Fatal Shore and it occured to me that I had never asked any of you?

Are you recent arrivals, if not, when did your people arrive and where were they from?

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The first member of my family to come to Australia arrived in the first fleet. He was a convict who had stolen an iron bar.

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Post  Guest Fri Feb 03, 2012 2:49 pm

pinhedz wrote:
Doc Watson wrote:The first member of my family to come to Australia arrived in the first fleet. He was a convict who had stolen an iron bar.
That's unusual--what did he need the iron bar for? scratch
We have no idea , possibly being arrested meant he did not get into troble for a worse crime.

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Post  Guest Fri Feb 03, 2012 3:25 pm

...Mum's parents came over as 'ten-pound poms' in about 1909 or thereabouts, from Liverpool / Manchester.
I'm not sure where Dad's side of the family is from.

..it's funny (ironic) that probably in the early days of settlement, the emancipted convicts wanted to remove themselves from the stigma and stain of their convict heritage, yet now, most people tracing their ancestry hope they are descended from the convicts, rather than from figures of authority.




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Post  tatiana Fri Feb 03, 2012 3:33 pm

Nah Ville Sky Chick wrote:How did you get there, do you know?

I have just started reading The Fatal Shore and it occured to me that I had never asked any of you?

Are you recent arrivals, if not, when did your people arrive and where were they from?

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hi nash,


serious answer
my mum has scottish heritage, i think....way back, she was born locally
and my dad is a dutchman.....he came to australia as a young child, might have been during a war.




my cheeky answer
out of my mums belly, just like everyone else....Nash, don't you remember that kind of stuff? Wink
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Post  Guest Fri Feb 03, 2012 11:20 pm

blue moon wrote:...Mum's parents came over as 'ten-pound poms' in about 1909 or thereabouts, from Liverpool / Manchester.
I'm not sure where Dad's side of the family is from.

..it's funny (ironic) that probably in the early days of settlement, the emancipted convicts wanted to remove themselves from the stigma and stain of their convict heritage, yet now, most people tracing their ancestry hope they are descended from the convicts, rather than from figures of authority.



Exactly many sites in Tasmania were almost destroyed by the government and for many years my father denied the fact we had a convict heritage . So many people try to claim it now that instead of 11 ships in the first fleet therewould have to be 100 ships if everyone was honest.

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Post  Old Mack Fri Feb 24, 2012 5:31 pm

Nah Ville Sky Chick wrote:It looks like a good read so far,....
Any update ???

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Post  Nah Ville Sky Chick Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:44 am

Hi Mack

Yes it 's very good, I am learning a lot. The first bit about the Aborigines shocked me quite a lot, as I did not really know much about them other than a little bit we were taught at school. I also enjoyed the chapter on the convicts themselves and again was suprised at how petty their crimes were.
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Post  Guest Sat Feb 25, 2012 7:31 am

Yes some of the crimes would not even rate a gaol term these days.

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Post  Guest Mon Feb 27, 2012 2:15 pm

pinhedz wrote:Are there more Australians who can't swim--or just one?

https://acrosstheuniverse.forummotion.com/t291-doc-watson-the-swimmer

Depite it being a land of wonderful beaches and many Olympic swimmers I am certainly not the onlt Australian who is a poor swimmer . Many just do not learn.

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