The end of all things?

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Post  Andy on Sun Aug 07, 2011 8:22 pm

I would like to add to that the apparant difficulty humanity seems to have in distinguishing 'is' from 'ought' -a matter already brought up in the 'religion vs science' thread in the 'science' section.

Almost invariably the great disasters are attributed to the vengeance of an institution - usually a God-like one - which is thought to be displeased by the state of affairs in the world (= that what is) as they do not conform to its intentions with that world (= that what ought to be).
The cause of this disjunction is always thought to be humanity itself, a thought to which humanity grants itself the position of being the agent of change for the better or even the ideal in a world of pure brute facts.
Isn't that the real drama of man? That he is in fact capable of imagening a better world, even capable of trying to realise it and yet often unaware of his own limitations which prevent him from actually being able to realise this ephemerous ideal?

It is this mechanism that convinces some peculiar elements in society to call out 'Thank God for Breivik' in our time.

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Post  pinhedz on Mon Aug 08, 2011 2:34 am

Oops--I should have said that 23 inches is the sea level rise predicted for the 21st century by the International Panel on Climate Change (IPCC).

If ALL of the ice over Greenland and Antarctica melts, sea level will rise another 200 feet or more (goodbye Florida). The IPCC doesn't believe that humans are bad enough to make that happen--at least not yet--but who really knows?

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Post  pinhedz on Mon Aug 08, 2011 2:41 am

Andy wrote:Almost invariably the great disasters are attributed to the vengeance of an institution - usually a God-like one - which is thought to be displeased by the state of affairs in the world (= that what is) as they do not conform to its intentions with that world (= that what ought to be).
I don't know that "institution" is the right word, but "God-like" certainly fits.

If Florida goes under, religious fundamentalists will say God was displeased (probably by gays in the Army, so praise the Lord in all his glory for this glorious punishment).

The IPCC will essentially say that Mother Nature was displeased (most people believe in one Deity or the other).

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Post  eddie on Sat May 12, 2012 3:31 am

Earliest Mayan calendar shows no hint of 'world end'

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Mayan priests in Guatemala participate in a vigil in 2010 to welcome the end of the Mayan calendar.

The earliest known Mayan calendar has been found in an ancient house in Guatemala and it offers no hint that the world's end is imminent, researchers said Thursday.

Rather, the painted room in the residential complex at Xultun was likely the place where the town scribe kept records, scrawling computations on the walls in an effort to find "harmony between sky events and sacred rituals," said the study in the journal Science.

The hieroglyphs date back to the ninth century, making them hundreds of years older than the calendars in the Maya Codices, which were recorded in bark-paper books from 1300 to 1521.

Some appear to be the 365-day solar calendar, the 584-day cycle of the planet Venus and the 780-day cycle of Mars, said archaeologist William Saturno of Boston University, who led the exploration and excavation.

According to Saturno, the writing looks like someone's attempt to sort out a very long math problem, as if on a blackboard.

"For the first time we get to see what may be actual records kept by a scribe, whose job was to be official record keeper of a Maya community," Saturno said.

"The ancient Maya predicted the world would continue, that 7,000 years from now, things would be exactly like this," he added.

"We keep looking for endings. The Maya were looking for a guarantee that nothing would change. It's an entirely different mindset."

Furthermore, there is no sign that the much-hyped myth that the Mayan calendar would end in 2012, and with it the world, has any bearing in reality.

All that ended in 2012 was one of its calendar cycles, said co-author Anthony Aveni, professor of astronomy and anthropology at Colgate University.

"It's like the odometer of a car, with the Maya calendar rolling over from the 120,000s to 130,000," said Aveni.

"The car gets a step closer to the junkyard as the numbers turn over; the Maya just start over," he added.

"The most exciting point is that we now see that the Maya were making such computations hundreds of years -- and in places other than books -- before they recorded them in the Codices."

Even though the 12-square mile (31-square kilometer) site of Xultun, deep in a rainforest where tens of thousands of people once lived, was first discovered about 100 years ago, the house structure where the calendar is drawn on the walls was spotted in 2010.

Researchers say careful excavations have revealed that the paintings inside -- including some of human figures wearing feather head-dresses -- show the first examples of Mayan art on a house interior.

"It's weird that the Xultun finds exist at all," Saturno said. "Such writings and artwork on walls don't preserve well in the Maya lowlands, especially in a house buried only a meter (three feet) below the surface."

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