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Post  Guest on Fri Mar 09, 2012 6:51 am

I wouldn't mind being compared to a spanish greyhound



so beautiful...

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Post  Guest on Fri Mar 09, 2012 11:32 am

^ It is sad the images I've seen before I've found this one. Go and google (image search) "galgo"... I don't know why this animal is so battered in this country

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Post  Guest on Fri Mar 09, 2012 11:42 am













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Post  Guest on Fri Mar 09, 2012 11:56 am









now I stop

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Post  pinhedz on Fri Mar 09, 2012 3:10 pm

Greyhounds are so spindly looking.

My favorite is the black labrador retriever, which is a bit more bulked up:




Blacks labs will also go get your stuff for you if you lose something:


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Post  Guest on Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:33 pm

pinhedz wrote:Greyhounds are so spindly looking.
my dog is the opposite... and his movements are much slower and clumsy (not only now that he is at the gates of death).
One day we found two hounds... here's one:



and we brought them home. When my dog appeared he looked like an alien dog beside them. So different dogs

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Post  pinhedz on Sat Mar 10, 2012 1:48 am

They say (by "they" I mean those who pass for experts) that all dogs where artificially bred from either wolves or jackals, and that those bred from wolves are social (that is, they tend to form into packs), while those bred from jackals are non-social (which is not to say anti-social).

But wolves--social as they are--do not make good pets, because, social as they are, they care about their position in the pack. If the pet owner ever looks sick or injured, the pet might attack, thinking that this is his chance to take charge of the pack.

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Post  pinhedz on Sat Mar 10, 2012 1:54 am

Another important difference between wolves and dogs was discovered during some Pavlovian experiments. If you teach a dog or wolf how to push a button to get food, they will both learn at the same rate.

But if--after the button has been working reliably for some time--it stops delivering the food, a wolf will just keep on pushing it.

A dog, however, will not keep pushing a button that doesn't work. He will stop pushing and turn his face to the researcher with a questioning look.

So, the dog is not trying to become the "alpha" in the pack. He just wants the "alpha" to fix what's broken. No doubt this is a trait that dogs were selected for by the animals breeders.

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Post  pinhedz on Sat Mar 10, 2012 1:59 am

Another interesting difference--full grown wolves do not bark. They will growl, or whimper, but not bark.

Wolf cubs, however, will sometimes bark. It's neither a growl nor a whimper, but some sort of social-interaction sound, and perhaps an expression of uncertainty.

The fact that full grown dogs bark suggests that mentally they are still in a puppy state (which no doubt makes then better as pets).

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Post  pinhedz on Sat Mar 10, 2012 2:14 am

There is an essay online discussing dog communication, which I have not read in full (because the site wants readers to register), but it starts like this:

"This paper will look at one of the communication systems of dogs - sound. It will look at how dogs communicate in the wild, and how they communicate with man in captivity. It will deal with spoken language as a means of communication animal-to-animal and animal-to-man."

"In human language, the actual sounds that make up the words we hear have no intrinsic relation to the meaning of the words themselves. However, in animal vocalizations, this is not so. It is almost a universal law of animal communication that low sounds (growls) indicate aggression and high sounds (whines) indicate fear or appeasement (Budiansky, 1995). Big things generally make low sounds and small things make high sounds. Whines and growls therefore take advantage of both the laws of acoustics and eons of evolved experience: it pays to recognize and avoid big things and not to fear small things. Humans also respond to these same rules in that they speak in a soft, high-pitched voice to a baby, and in a rough low tone to some one when they are angry."

"Barking in dogs does not usually follow this rule. A Bark monitored on an oscilloscope is halfway between a growl and a whine, and its purpose is less clear. ..."

So, it would appear that the bark is some kind of social interaction, but it conveys neither dominance nor submission--it conveys something in between.

Could we translate a bark into human language? It probably means something like "Yo! Wassup bro?"

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Post  Guest on Sat Mar 10, 2012 4:04 am

My brother told me that dogs learnt to bark from the presence of humans. So it makes sense that barking in dogs doesn't strictly follow that rule.

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Post  pinhedz on Sat Mar 10, 2012 8:08 am

I was thinking of posting some oscilloscope pics--now there's no need to. Smile

One thing you can see from oscilloscope traces is that if you compare a growl, a whine, and a bark, the bark looks a a growl combined with a whine. scratch

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Post  pinhedz on Sat Mar 10, 2012 8:23 am

Typical dialogue from the old "Lassie" TV series:

Lassie: bark bark!

Dad: What is it Lassie? What is it girl?

Lassie: Bark bark bark BARK!

Dad: What is it? Is it Timmy?

Lassie: Bark Bark Bark!

Dad: Where's Timmy Girl? Did he fall down an abandoned mine shaft?

Lassie: Bark bark bark bark BARK!

Dad: Can you show us where Timmy is? Let's go, girl, show us the way!


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Post  pinhedz on Sat Mar 10, 2012 8:26 am

One time a sociologist was interviewing an old-timer out in the country, and he asked the old-timer if he had any idea about why dogs bark.

The old-timer said: "Just for the hell of it, I reckon." Razz

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Post  Guest on Sat Mar 10, 2012 8:34 am

my dog stop barking as he was getting very old. Now he only barks when he's asking for help... barks similar to whine

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Post  pinhedz on Sat Mar 10, 2012 8:39 am

Sherlock Holmes: Did you note the singular behaviour of the dog? Suspect

Dr. Watson: But the dog did nothing. scratch

Sherlock Holmes: That was the singular behaviour. Suspect

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Post  pinhedz on Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:35 am

Here we can tell what the dog is saying by his tone:

"Go away --- I'm going to kill you! --- Don't hurt me, please! --- I'm going to kill you! --- Don't hurt me please! ..."


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Post  Guest on Sun Mar 18, 2012 9:28 pm



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