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Post  precinct14 on Fri Mar 30, 2012 2:52 am

jade spinetta wrote:

Never saw this one before.

In case that's Marlon Brando... why is he so dirty?

He's just climbed off the footplate of The Pacific Chief. He's certainly got his leery eye on gamine little Bobby. Who's got herself between the two of them, I wonder?
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Post  eddie on Fri Mar 30, 2012 3:55 pm

^

Fair enough, Pinz. My bad. I see that I'll have to re-read it (when I get the time).

Seems that the Chinese ascendency theme misled me into believing that Bob's interlocutor was Chinese himself. The name 'Sun' might have contributed to this impression, I suppose.
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Re: The Bob Dylan Depreciation Thread

Post  tatiana on Fri Mar 30, 2012 3:56 pm

precinct14 wrote:
jade spinetta wrote:

Never saw this one before.

In case that's Marlon Brando... why is he so dirty?

He's just climbed off the footplate of The Pacific Chief. He's certainly got his leery eye on gamine little Bobby. Who's got herself between the two of them, I wonder?

Me, but don't tell anyone ....
it is a secret.

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Re: The Bob Dylan Depreciation Thread

Post  nombre de otro on Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:50 pm

Dylan fans sound like they demand some compensation for being Dylan fans geek
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Re: The Bob Dylan Depreciation Thread

Post  nombre de otro on Thu Aug 30, 2012 12:03 am

what should Serrat fans say then when he recorded an album in backwards catalan?
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Re: The Bob Dylan Depreciation Thread

Post  nombre de otro on Thu Sep 13, 2012 10:03 pm

I agree, Bob wasn't a protest singer. He was a whiny boy clown

From cool to creepy in 50 easy steps year by year clown
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Re: The Bob Dylan Depreciation Thread

Post  nombre de otro on Thu Sep 13, 2012 10:05 pm

random ego of otro nombre wrote:he recorded an album in backwards catalan?
This might not be true but I don't need reality to prove my point
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Re: The Bob Dylan Depreciation Thread

Post  Alouette on Sat Dec 14, 2013 2:09 pm

Nice essay.  http://dissidentvoice.org/2013/12/bob-dylan-and-plagiarism/


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Post  Alouette on Mon Dec 16, 2013 1:45 am

He is light years ahead.


'Dylan’s willingness to enforce his copyright in cases where he feels his work has been infringed upon, and his attempts to conceal his use of external passages indicates that he is well aware of what he is doing.
One is left to wonder, with Dylan, not only whether what he has done is fair, but whether it is worthy of his own legacy" Alexander T. Deley
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Re: The Bob Dylan Depreciation Thread

Post  Alouette on Sat Dec 21, 2013 11:04 pm

pinhedz wrote:
Alouette wrote:He is light years ahead.
It's true that Koerner never figured out how to make money.  

Bob is an alchemist.
He can turn just about anything into cash,
plus he has the road maps to the soul.
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Post  Alouette on Wed Jan 08, 2014 10:06 pm

heard recently, song inspired BD

Never heard this before and was actually kinda surprised.
think I read Clayton borrowed for this one too.
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Post  felix on Thu Jan 09, 2014 1:05 am

From the wikipedia entry for Clayton:

Alleged plagiarism by Bob Dylan

Bob Dylan's friendship with Clayton dated back to 1961, Dylan's first year in New York City. Dylan traveled cross-country with Clayton and two other friends in 1963, during which they visited poet Carl Sandburg in North Carolina, attended Mardi Gras in New Orleans and rendezvoused with Joan Baez in California.
In an interview published as part of a history of Greenwich Village folk club Gerde's Folk City, folksinger Barry Kornfeld described how Clayton's "Who's Gonna Buy You Ribbons (When I'm Gone)" morphed into Dylan's "Don't Think Twice":
"I was with Paul one day, and Dylan wanders by and says, 'Hey, man, that's a great song. I'm going to use that song.' And he wrote a far better song, a much more interesting song - 'Don't Think Twice, It's All Right'."
Dylan's and Clayton's publishing companies sued each other over the alleged plagiarism. As it turned out, Clayton's song was derived from an earlier folksong entitled "Who's Gonna Buy You Chickens When I'm Gone?", which was in the public domain. The lawsuits, which were settled out of court, had no effect on the friendship between the two songwriters.
In the notes to Biograph (album) (1985), Dylan acknowledges that "'Don't Think Twice' was a riff that Paul [Clayton] had." He also credits Clayton for the melody line to "Percy's Song".


You might want to read the following blog entry, though, which questions Clayton's claim to have 'borrowed' his song from an earlier folk song:

http://elmergantry.wordpress.com/2012/09/12/dont-think-twice-revisited/
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Post  Alouette on Thu Jan 09, 2014 12:26 pm

thanks for link & history felix
Bob did improve on the ribbons or chicken lyrics anyhow
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Post  Alouette on Thu Jan 09, 2014 10:37 pm

Good morning pinhedz
Did you see 'inside llewyn davis' ?
I didn't and am wondering if is worth checking out.
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Re: The Bob Dylan Depreciation Thread

Post  Alouette on Fri Jan 10, 2014 12:54 pm

Don't think I could find anyone who would go see llewyn davis with me.
Main squeeze only likes Elvis Presley & and Grand funk railroad.


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Re: The Bob Dylan Depreciation Thread

Post  felix on Sat Jan 11, 2014 1:04 am

Only Elvis would be OK; only Elvis & GFR? Nooooo! Dump 'im fast. This advice is free.  pirat I love you No Suspect 
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Post  felix on Sat Jan 11, 2014 1:24 pm

pinhedz wrote:Elvis and Jack Teagarden would be good.  
True. cat 

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Post  Alouette on Sat Jan 11, 2014 1:53 pm

felix wrote:Only Elvis would be OK; only Elvis & GFR?  Nooooo!  Dump 'im fast.  This advice is free.  pirat I love you No Suspect 


Elvis is ok
Grand Funk Railroad a problem
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Re: The Bob Dylan Depreciation Thread

Post  Alouette on Sun Jan 26, 2014 1:52 am



'There is another narrative, however, and it's that Dylan is not just the first and greatest intentional rock 'n' roll poet.

He's also the first great rock 'n' roll a**h***'


http://www.esquire.com/features/who-is-this-bob-dylan-interview-0214
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Re: The Bob Dylan Depreciation Thread

Post  blue moon on Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:11 am

That's interesting.
I witnessed an entire backstage and side-of-stage area ordered cleared before he entered the venue, and the roadies and sound crew said they were advised to avert their eyes.
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Re: The Bob Dylan Depreciation Thread

Post  Alouette on Sat Feb 15, 2014 11:55 pm

Confession:
My opinion of Bob Dylan's work is changing.
Lately for me, his music is not all that pleasant to listen to.
And I've been a big fan for years.
I was at five BD concerts in the past 1 & 1/2 yr.

I have a pretty big Dylan collection, but lately am only playing a CD when I'm trying to make someone go.

Is Bob Dylan the most financially successful, overrated, untalented, sell out that ever lived ?
Or maybe I'm going through a stage of Dylan fandom ?
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Post  felix on Sun Feb 16, 2014 6:01 am

Alouette wrote:Confession:
My opinion of Bob Dylan's work is changing.
Lately for me, his music is not all that pleasant to listen to.
And I've been a big fan for years.
I was at five BD concerts in the past 1 & 1/2 yr.

I have a pretty big Dylan collection, but lately am only playing a CD when I'm trying to make someone go.

Is Bob Dylan the most financially successful, overrated, untalented, sell out that ever lived ?
Or maybe I'm going through a stage of Dylan fandom ?

Vairry interresting!

Is this all of Bobby's work? Or just some of it? And if just some, which some?

Hmmmm.... Suspect 
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Re: The Bob Dylan Depreciation Thread

Post  Alouette on Mon Feb 17, 2014 12:06 am

felix wrote:Vairry interresting!

Is this all of Bobby's work?  Or just some of it?  And if just some, which some?

Hmmmm.... Suspect 

Mostly Bob's later albums.
When he started ripping off Jimmy Durante
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Re: The Bob Dylan Depreciation Thread

Post  Alouette on Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:52 pm

good point ^
many fans upset about super bowl ad.
What is up with all the outrage?
Bob's been consistent regarding $$.
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Re: The Bob Dylan Depreciation Thread

Post  felix on Thu Feb 20, 2014 4:18 am

^ This. Some folks just love to be outraged!
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