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Post  eddie on Tue May 31, 2011 4:38 am

After the ATUI shipwreck, I posted many links here on ATUII to cached material from the old site without actually copying the material here. (Wise old owl Pinz has been copying old cached material here from the start). This was because I was under the impression that this material had a shelf-life of many months- allowing me to get around to the essential copying work as time and opportunity offered- but I've been noticing recently that such links are expiring at a much faster rate than I'd anticipated, viz expiring in weeks, rather than months. In short, I'm never going to catch up.

I could use some help here.

If you encounter a still current link to cached material from the old ATUI site, it would be a great help if you could copy the good posts onto the same thread. Omit the drivel. Picture images and youtube links need posting separately.

This will both perform an essential public service and boost your own post count to astronomical levels.

Cheers!


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Post  sil on Tue May 31, 2011 5:14 am

If I google the following:

site:acrosstheuniverse.forumotion.com "paintings and photography"

we get this

a lot of threads still can be saved (and this is only the paintings and photography section)


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Post  eddie on Tue May 31, 2011 5:25 am

I'm making decent progress with the Paintings & Photography section.

I'm more concerned about Literature, Theatre/Performance, Off Topic etc.

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Post  Doc Watson on Wed Jun 01, 2011 12:15 am

eddie wrote:

This will boost your own post count to astronomical levels.

Cheers!

So that is why you do it.

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Post  eddie on Wed Jun 01, 2011 7:01 pm

Doc Watson wrote:
So that is why you do it.

If an Arts message board has no Arts content, it's not an Arts message board. That's why I do it.

As for why you post....only you can say.




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Post  Doc Watson on Thu Jun 02, 2011 12:12 am

eddie wrote:
Doc Watson wrote:
So that is why you do it.

If an Arts message board has no Arts content, it's not an Arts message board. That's why I do it.

As for why you post....only you can say.



I post because I enjoy it . I like to learn from others and every so often they may just learn something from me


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Post  Lee Van Queef on Sat Jun 04, 2011 3:06 am

Exactly.

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Post  eddie on Sat Jun 04, 2011 6:12 pm

Simulacrum wrote:Exactly.

If you want to preserve your own Orson Welles thread in the Cinema section, you might complete the work I've already started. I had to abandon the task because I don't know how to copy embedded film clips.

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Post  Lee Van Queef on Sat Jun 04, 2011 10:41 pm

I haven't got the time to be honest. Thanks for the work that you've done.

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Post  eddie on Sat Jun 11, 2011 9:15 pm

Update:

Links to ATUI cached material in the Painting & Photography and Theatre/Performance sections have more or less been dealt with, but the cached material is expiring rapidly.

Some threads I've replicated from still-current links.
Some I've recreated from memory as best I could when I've found that the links have expired.
Some expired threads still need rebuilding work.
Some topics I've had to delete because I couldn't recall the content well enough to attempt a rebuild.

The Literature section is the next big task.

I'd appeal once more to anyone who finds a still-current link to copy the material onto the same thread. Thanks to felix, guacamayo and twoody for what they've done. The matter is now becoming urgent because of the rate of cache erosion.

Whatever you wish to keep you'd better grab it fast.

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Post  felix on Mon Jun 13, 2011 4:11 am

eddie wrote: Whatever you wish to keep you'd better grab it fast.
cat Not a truer word (or several) spoken.

You've done a great job, Eddie, and I'll try and catch a few more, if I can, before they expire.

EDIT: thanks are also due to pinhedz for rescuing or re-creating many a thread in the realms of science, blues, folk, classical etc etc etc! cheers

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Post  eddie on Mon Jun 13, 2011 4:32 am

Update II

I've just had to delete many threads from the Literature section because the links to cached material had expired. There was absolutely no point in preserving such threads- except as mere Topic headings. So they've gone.

Managed to save about half a dozen, though.

I wasn't expecting the cached material to expire so FAST.

Oh, well. What can be salvaged from ATUI has pretty much been salvaged. The rest has sunk without trace- a very good thing, in some cases. lol!

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Post  sil on Mon Jun 13, 2011 4:42 am

Eddie's da man cheers

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Post  sil on Mon Jun 13, 2011 4:49 am

... but I'm still waiting to know if no. 9 is a woman Suspect

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Post  sil on Mon Jun 13, 2011 4:51 am

felix wrote:EDIT: thanks are also due to pinhedz for rescuing or re-creating many a thread in the realms of science, blues, folk, classical etc etc etc! cheers
Yep... pinhedz da man! cheers
hehehe

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Post  eddie on Mon Jun 13, 2011 5:03 am

Lacking the advanced IT skills of felix and Pinz, I've had no idea how to compress surviving ATUI posts on a particular thread into a single AATUII post, as both felix and PInz have done successfully.

Instead, I've had to fall back on my own primitive IT 'skills' and plod manually through every thread response and post them individually.

This has had the unexpected bonus of making me AATUII's most prolific poster by a country mile. cheers

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Post  eddie on Mon Jun 13, 2011 5:11 am

bam balam doo wrote:... but I'm still waiting to know if no. 9 is a woman Suspect

I genuinely don't know! The Guardian's VS Naipaul quiz (see Literature section) didn't supply the answers in that particular online edition of their Books page.

But I'll try to find out.

The Guardian's already made its point just by setting the quiz, though, hasn't it?

Naipaul's a tosser.


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Post  pinhedz on Mon Jun 13, 2011 7:07 am

eddie wrote:Lacking the advanced IT skills of felix and Pinz, I've had no idea how to compress surviving ATUI posts on a particular thread into a single AATUII post, as both felix and PInz have done successfully.
I think we're doing about the same thing you're doing--the only difference is we copy whole threads instead one post at a time (of course, that means there's a lot of extraneous stuff between posts to delete).

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Post  Doc Watson on Mon Jun 13, 2011 3:09 pm

At the risk of incurring the wrath of Eddie , Felix and others I dare to ask what is the real point of restoring all these old threads. Some of them had run their course. If one was still active at the time of the old site's demise . interested people would have restarted the topic and if it has gone this long without being started off again is it essential.
I think Eddie and others have done an incredible job in restoring these old threads . But why ?

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Post  eddie on Mon Jun 13, 2011 4:35 pm

Doc Watson wrote:I think Eddie and others have done an incredible job in restoring these old threads . But why ?

What are you, some kind of vegetable?

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Post  pinhedz on Mon Jun 13, 2011 9:04 pm

Doc Watson wrote:But why ?
To me, this site is an experiment. It's an investigation into whether or not a forum for just discussing music and the arts can get traction without some kind of cult figure (like Bob Dylan) at the center.

To get traction, new members have to find the place. How would they find the place? Probably by googling on key words or phrases--looking for the kind of content that interests them.

The old ATU had 80,000 posts with millions of words and phrases, and content ranging over many areas of music and the arts. So far, less than 1/10th of that content has been restored, but I think what's here now is a higher-grade ore.

That doesn't mean that the experiment is going to be any more successful than it was before (the membership is still almost entirely former ER members), but an experiment is an experiment.

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Post  Doc Watson on Tue Jun 14, 2011 12:07 am

eddie wrote:
Doc Watson wrote:I think Eddie and others have done an incredible job in restoring these old threads . But why ?

What are you, some kind of vegetable?
As I said it would incur your wrath , but you have not explained why.
"Leave the dead you've left behind , they will not follow you"

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Post  Doc Watson on Tue Jun 14, 2011 12:09 am

pinhedz wrote:
Doc Watson wrote:But why ?
To me, this site is an experiment. It's an investigation into whether or not a forum for just discussing music and the arts can get traction without some kind of cult figure (like Bob Dylan) at the center.

To get traction, new members have to find the place. How would they find the place? Probably by googling on key words or phrases--looking for the kind of content that interests them.

The old ATU had 80,000 posts with millions of words and phrases, and content ranging over many areas of music and the arts. So far, less than 1/10th of that content has been restored, but I think what's here now is a higher-grade ore.

That doesn't mean that the experiment is going to be any more successful than it was before (the membership is still almost entirely former ER members), but an experiment is an experiment.
If you type in all across the universe in google you are given this site.
As topics come up they are relevant.
Sites and forums come and go.

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Post  pinhedz on Tue Jun 14, 2011 12:24 am

Who would search for "all across the universe?" Only Beatles fans, I reckon.

We need more Dave Ray fans and Shaggs fans and Jimmie Giuffre Fans and Kid Ory fans.

And what about people searching for "moon" + "lunacy?" They might not think to search for "all across the universe" (some might, but that's a stretch).

In one of the first posts Frances recommended posting about Gregory Peck, so that girls would sign up.

I recommended posting the covers of Perez Prado records--to make guys sign up.



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Post  pinhedz on Tue Jun 14, 2011 12:26 am

Frances then created an area just for Perez Prado (which reminds me--that should be restored Laughing ).

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