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Post  pinhedz on Wed Apr 04, 2012 12:40 am

Doc Watson wrote:Also ideal is SYS DIA X 1.5 ...
Lean healthy 18-year-olds don't fit that formula based on US statistics; it's more like SYS = DIA + 50.

Statistics, of course, only tell us what's "normal." I wouldn't know how to define "ideal" (do doctors really think they know what's "ideal?")

Doctors often say that 120/80 (which fits your formula) is "normal." But the statistics show that doctors don't always do their homework: 120 "normally" goes with 70, not 80.

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Post  pinhedz on Wed Apr 04, 2012 12:41 am

This thread reads likes a bunch of really old geezers out on the front porch. Razz

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Post  pinhedz on Wed Apr 04, 2012 1:07 am

Doc Watson wrote:... my SYS has ranged between 108 and 140 ...
For me: 93 to 198 (only in DC--not really "at rest" Razz ).

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Post  pinhedz on Wed Apr 04, 2012 1:27 am

Doctors aren't all bad, I wouldn't hesitate to go to one to set a broken bone or sew up a knife wound.

But they sure do like to push those humbug pills, don't they? silent

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Post  Doc Watson on Wed Apr 04, 2012 3:40 pm

pinhedz wrote:
Doc Watson wrote:Also ideal is SYS DIA X 1.5 ...
Lean healthy 18-year-olds don't fit that formula based on US statistics; it's more like SYS = DIA + 50.

Statistics, of course, only tell us what's "normal." I wouldn't know how to define "ideal" (do doctors really think they know what's "ideal?")

Doctors often say that 120/80 (which fits your formula) is "normal." But the statistics show that doctors don't always do their homework: 120 "normally" goes with 70, not 80.
70 is far better as it is considersably lower

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Post  pinhedz on Wed Apr 04, 2012 11:09 pm

I would guess that the formula DIA X 1.5 = SYS is used to evaluate "arterial compliance."

That is, if SYS = DIA X 1.5, that indicates one's arteries are young springy.

So, in a case like 150/100, one might conclude that the arteries are young and springy, but with a heap of plaque build-up (not an "ideal" situation).

In a case like 99/66, we're probably looking at a 90-pound Vietnamese girl (this might be one reason women live longer than us).

[I was 98/55 one time last February, but I think I was dehydrated ]

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Post  Doc Watson on Thu Apr 05, 2012 12:26 am

I donate blood every fortnight so I get regular checks on my blood pressure.

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Post  pinhedz on Thu Apr 05, 2012 1:11 am

I suppose BP is lower after than before?

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Post  Doc Watson on Thu Apr 05, 2012 8:09 pm

pinhedz wrote:I suppose BP is lower after than before?
I imagine it would be, but they only check before you donate!

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Post  Nah Ville Sky Chick on Thu Apr 05, 2012 8:43 pm

Doc Watson wrote:I donate blood every fortnight so I get regular checks on my blood pressure.

Wow, you are generous. Over here we can only donate every 16 weeks!!

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Post  Doc Watson on Fri Apr 06, 2012 12:00 am

Nah Ville Sky Chick wrote:
Doc Watson wrote:I donate blood every fortnight so I get regular checks on my blood pressure.

Wow, you are generous. Over here we can only donate every 16 weeks!!
I donate plasma not whole blood . I have big veins which is why I am allowed to do it. It means more lives can be saved.

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Post  pinhedz on Fri Apr 06, 2012 7:43 am

From ATU-THE MOVIE (pure coincidence, upon my word):

Mack rummages in his brief case and takes out his blood pressure monitor. But Paladin hurry's over and says:

-- "Never mind that--here's your Jim Beam."

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Post  eddie on Fri Apr 06, 2012 5:53 pm

A red letter day yesterday, blood red to be precise.

Back to the health centre for a repeat of the the blood count test. More of the red stuff extracted from the vein in the crook of my left arm. The sample gets sent off to the labs of the Bart's & Royal London Hospital trust and I get the result in week's time.

Another blood pressure reading, too: higher than 3 weeks ago, but not, thank goodness, dangerously high. Got to arrange another reading in a couple of weeks.

The climax to this gore fest came when I was walking down the steep stairs to the Aldgate tube station platforms to lamp out the last trains of the night. I'm announcing the imminent departure of the last Amersham service through my hand-held Remote Platform Announcer gizmo and trying at the same time to deal with the confused drunk accompanying me when I become distracted and, about three stairs from the terra firma of the landing, I take a step into mid-air, in the mistaken impression that I was already on the landing, and crash painfully onto the ridged tactile paving placed there for the benefit of the visually impaired. Quite a lot of blood.

This morning my stiff right knee is starting to bruise and swell, so I've called in sick: Injury at Work, so it doesn't earn a black mark on my attendance record.


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Post  eddie on Fri Apr 20, 2012 2:00 am

Reading these medical bulletins can be nowhere near as tedious, believe me, as the actual lived experience of navigating the minefield that the UK National Health Service has become under the Con-Dem government's "Reforms".

But anyway...

1. Blood pressure (on the 3rd reading) is still high, but not dangerously so. Got to make some "Lifestyle adjustments" (e.g. quit smoking) and return in 3 months for another test. Did I mention that the cholesterol and other blood tests (except the blood count) came back normal? No meds needed at this stage.

2. More problematic is the still elevated (but 'improving') white blood cell count. The first flesh-and-blood doctor (as opposed to a nurse or a voice on the telephone) I've seen in the past 6 weeks prescribed antibiotics for a chesty cough that's lingered long after the winter cold that set it off had cleared up. I'd put this down to working on a freezing gateline, but who knows? Also had a chest X-Ray this morning. Results in a week's time.

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Post  eddie on Fri Apr 20, 2012 2:07 am

^

I was much cheered this morning when the doctor took my temperature by sticking a device of some kind IN MY EAR! How cool is THAT? A first for me, at any rate.

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Post  eddie on Fri Apr 20, 2012 2:13 am

I ought to add that, ramshackle though the appointment/switchboard system might be at my local health centre, the staff are cheerful and dedicated.

I'm also being given access to medical equipment of a sophisication that a large part of the globe can only dream about.

Neither am I being asked for my credit card at the reception desk. I've already paid for these services through taxation.


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Post  Guest on Fri Apr 20, 2012 2:42 am

eddie wrote:I was much cheered this morning when the doctor took my temperature by sticking a device of some kind IN MY EAR! How cool is THAT?
from 0 to 5 that's definitely a 5 in the scale of coolness!

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Post  pinhedz on Fri Apr 20, 2012 2:45 am

eddie wrote:... the doctor took my temperature by sticking a device of some kind IN MY EAR!
It could be much worse. affraid

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Post  Guest on Fri Apr 20, 2012 2:50 am

I put my finger in my mom's ear when she is cooking... then she complains about having a retarded daughter...

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Post  Guest on Fri Apr 20, 2012 2:54 am

jade spinetta wrote:I put my finger in my mom's ear when she is cooking... then she complains about having a retarded daughter...
...there it is again.
hmmm.

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Post  Guest on Fri Apr 20, 2012 3:00 am

maybe it is due to the music I listen to... what am I suppossed to do? to listen to English music? or Australian? pwahaha

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Post  Guest on Fri Apr 20, 2012 3:07 am

...it's not the music

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Post  Guest on Sun Apr 22, 2012 6:33 pm

jade spinetta wrote:I put my finger in my mom's ear when she is cooking... then she complains about having a retarded daughter...


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Post  eddie on Sun Apr 22, 2012 6:53 pm

pinhedz wrote:
eddie wrote:... the doctor took my temperature by sticking a device of some kind IN MY EAR!
It could be much worse. affraid


Rectal themometer.

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Post  pinhedz on Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:05 pm

I've been told that way is the most accurate.

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