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Stephen Foster -- Hard Times

Post  pinhedz on Thu Apr 21, 2011 10:56 pm

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Stephen Foster's nanny took him to church on Sunday. She was half black, so they had to go to the black church. Foster's brother said Stephen picked up this tune there. When Mavis Staples does it, it's pure gospel.

But the published version probably was played more like this (and maybe even looked like this):



But here's a version that makes it pure Irish:




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This one is quite a bit spookier on the record, especially if you've just seen "Cold Mountain."


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Post  pinhedz on Thu Apr 21, 2011 11:01 pm

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Also Spooky affraid




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That's bloody brilliant!

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Post  pinhedz on Thu Apr 21, 2011 11:05 pm

John McLaughlin

Nothing tops the Original Red Clay Ramblers - Tommy Thompson, Jack Herrick, Jim Watson, Bill Hicks, Mike Craver - doing this or any other thing they wanted to turn their vocal chords and nimble fingers to. Besides, they were madmen who pissed off a lotta people by being as politically incorrect as they could get, which was pretty far out when they had a mind to. Oh well. I miss them a lot.

http://www.thedigitalfolklife.org

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The Red Clay Ramblers! I loved those guys.

Remember "Lie of the Mind"? The Sam Shepard play that was staged with a balcony on which the Red Clay Ramblers played throughout the play?

Here's the deal: http://originalredclayramblers.com/calendars/lieofthemind.htm

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Angelina Baker
-- Stephen Foster

I've seen my Angelina
In the spring time and the fall,
I've seen her in the corn field
And I've seen her at the ball;
And every time I met her
She was smiling like the sun,
But now I'm left to weep a tear
Cause Angelina's gone.

chorus:
Angelina Baker!
Angelina Baker's gone
She left me here to weep a tear
And play on the old jaw bone.

Angelina liked the boys
As far as she could see them,
She used to run old Massa 'round
To ask him for to free them.
Early in the morning
Of a lovely summer day
I asked for Angelina,
But they'd taken her away.

chorus:
Angelina Baker!
Angelina Baker's gone
She left me here to weep a tear
And play on the old jaw bone.


John McLaughlin

I think the Ramblers do Angelina Baker someplace too. Whatever they did - magic. (I just got word from Mike Craver - he's sent me his end of an "email interview" - I sent him the questions, here's his answers) to put up on The Digital Folk Life website. Just waiting for me webmistress to get it together, and it'll be up there. Like the rest of the Ramblers, he's such an articulate guy. Tommy Thompson was a philosophy TA at Chapel Hill when they got started - great interview, just ask him a sentence, you got a paragraph answer and stop there. Kept the thing flowing along real nicely. It was such a tragedy when he succumbed to early Altzheimers, horrible enough for anyone, but for a guy with that kind of mind to go that way - eeeh.


John McLaughlin

Geez, that one died the death, dint it?

Anyway, check the archives of The Digital Folk Life for the Mike Craver interview, as well as the much older Tommy Thompson one. We shall not soon see Tommy's like again.

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Post  pinhedz on Thu Apr 21, 2011 11:12 pm

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This bunch might be even harder to categorize than the Texas playboys:




John McLaughlin

That's the new Red Clay Ramblers - only Jack Herrick, the trumpet player, remains from the Original Red Clay Ramblers. Bland Simpson is the fiddler, replaccing Bill Hicks, who's now playing and recording solo or with his wife. Mike Craver now has a solo career, as predicted by the late, lamented Tommy Thompson, founder of the ORCR, and Jim Watson is either playing solo or in Robin & Linda Williams' Fine Group. I don't care for any recordings by these guys as much as I do the ORCR, who were true whackjobs - said with due reverence, love & respect for whackjobs everywhere. These guys have even tamed Jack Herrick, who was I think close to Tommy as Wjackjob Supreme in the originals, oh well. Don't buy these guys if you can get the double CD Merchant's Lunch/ Mtn Laurel CD of the originals first, to hear what I mean, especially things like Woman Down in Memphis," or the title cut of "Merchants' Lunch," with "an acre of Brenda...exposed to view...." Worth the price alone. And then of course there's the ORCR' version og Stepgen Foster's "Hard Times," which is on a CD by that name and has never been matched. I'm biased by my love for them, of course; but taming Jack Herrick was close to sacrilege, IMFO, and YMMV, BOC.

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One youtube commentator says: "Bravo Wainwright McGarrigle families et al"



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Stephen Foster was murdered by a vengeful washbasin. Talk about your hard times.

Goat Smith

He was one of the few songwriters to die with exact change.

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Post  felix on Fri Apr 22, 2011 12:45 am

Thanks for reloading this one, pinz. Gives me the nudge to repost this glorious Mavis Staples 'live in the studio' version. Than this, it don't get better.


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Post  pinhedz on Sat Aug 06, 2011 3:39 am

I heard this is Newfoundland:

“Well, one fine day in the month of June,
(She's a downtown girl, she's a get around girl),
I figured that I'd write me a silly little tune,
(She's a downtown girl for sure).”

“As she likes waking up with her hair messed up,
(She's a downtown girl, she's a get around girl),
She likes waking up with her hair messed up,
(She's a downtown girl for sure).”

And it sounds a whole lot like a certain Stephen Foster song:

“The Camptown ladies sing this song
Doo-dah! Doo-dah!
The Camptown racetrack's five miles long
Oh! doo-dah day!”

“The long tail filly and the big black hoss
Doo-dah! Doo-dah!
They fly the track and they both cut across
Oh! de doo-dah day!”

“The blind hoss sticken in a big mud hole
Doo-dah! doo-dah!
Can’t touch bottom with a ten foot pole
Oh! de doo-dah day!”

“Old muley cow come on to the track
Doo-dah! Doo-dah!
The bob-tail fling her over his back
Oh! de doo-dah day!”

“See them flyin’ on a ten mile heat
Doo-dah! Doo-dah!
Round the race track, then repeat
Oh! doo-dah day!”

“I win my money on the bob-tail nag
Doo-dah! doo-dah!
I keep my money in an old tow-bag
Oh! de doo-dah day!”

It got me started thinking about the (hidden? Suspect ) meaning of a song like that. Is it possible that Foster published something bowdlerized?

You learn this song as a kid, and you assume the “ladies” are women of breeding and social accomplishment out promenading in their white summer dresses and parasols.

But what is this “camp?” and what does “doo-da, de doo-dah day” mean?
Is it like “diddy-wa diddy?” or “wang dang doodle?” or “gitcha gitcha ya ya?”

I understand that the old minstrel shows where entertainment for the whole family—where there messages understood by the grown-ups that had to be hidden from the impressionable youngsters? Suspect

“The blind hoss sticken in a big mud hole
Can’t touch bottom with a ten foot pole!”

That’s about the horses—right? Suspect Embarassed Razz

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Post  pinhedz on Sat Aug 06, 2011 6:30 am

Maybe I'm wrong--Google says Camptown is a town in Pennsylvania, and the race was 5 miles to Wyalusing, Penn.


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Post  pinhedz on Sat Oct 22, 2011 3:24 pm

Stephen Foster drank himself to death, so his most tragic song has got to be this one:

Oh, Comrades fill no glass for me
To drown my soul in liquid flame.
For if I drank the toast should be
To blighted fortune health and fame.
Yet though I long to quell the strife
That passion holds against my life,
Still boon companions ye may be,
But comrades fill no glass for me.

I know a breast that once was light,
Whose patient sufferings need my care.
I know a hearth that once was bright,
But drooping hopes have nestled there.
Then while the tear drops nightly steal,
From wounded hearts that I should heal
Though boon companions you may be,
Oh comrades, fill no glass for me.

When I was young I felt the tide
Of aspirations undefiled.
But manhood's years have wronged the pride
My parents centered in their child.
Then, by a mother's sacred tear,
By all that memory should revere,
Though boon companions you may be,
Oh comrades, fill no glass for me.

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Post  pinhedz on Sun Jan 06, 2013 2:04 pm


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Post  pinhedz on Sun Jan 06, 2013 2:05 pm


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Post  pinhedz on Sat Jun 22, 2013 2:50 pm

There's a lot of talk about "Shocking Blue" ripping off "The Big 3," but who talks about how it all traces back to "Rose of Alabamy?"








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Post  pinhedz on Sun May 18, 2014 5:39 am

What stephen foster song are you listening to that was covered by another performer?



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Smile mhh i don't know WHY this music doesn't play in clubs^^.

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Post  pinhedz on Sun May 18, 2014 5:41 am

Inna Lapteva sez:
"А эту Сюзанну по русски распевало все студенчеество 60-ых"
[A this Suzanna in Russian are singing all the student grouppi in 1960s]


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Post  Yakima Canutt on Sun May 18, 2014 7:55 am

pretty embarrassing that a cetrain some one in this Topic was cornfusing The New Red Clay Ramblers for The Original New Red Clay Ramblers ... but why does Yak always have to be the one to post the really essential stuff?  Yak keep waiting for other to slack-gather, but no ... frustrating b/c Yak is a busy busy Bedouin


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Post  pinhedz on Sun May 18, 2014 8:19 am

Yakima Canutt wrote:pretty embarrassing that a cetrain some one in this Topic was cornfusing The New Red Clay Ramblers for The Original New Red Clay Ramblers ...
And then, after that embarrassing gaff was eliminated by Miss Daisy, the pinhed actually retrieved it from the cache for all to see. Embarassed 

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Post  pinhedz on Tue May 26, 2015 4:37 am

The Koreans have things to say about Foster. Is it in a good way or a bad way? geek


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