The King James Bible
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pinhedz wrote:The nuns at my grade grade school (grammar school?) were highly critical of the King James translation (although they said it read well from a literary standpoint).
If they were Catholic nuns, as I suppose, that would figure. King James was a Protestant monarch.

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The sisters have pointed outed substantive inaccuracies. For example:
"...on Earth peace and good will toward men"
is substantively different from:
"...on Earth peace to men of good will."
The second rendition is conditional; the first (King James') is almost new agey, it has that "I'm-OK-you're-Ok-it's-all-good" attitude about it.
Some would say "C'mon, lighten up sister, it's Christmas."
But sister does not grant license for an unconditional good time--not on Christmas or any other occasion.
"...on Earth peace and good will toward men"
is substantively different from:
"...on Earth peace to men of good will."
The second rendition is conditional; the first (King James') is almost new agey, it has that "I'm-OK-you're-Ok-it's-all-good" attitude about it.
Some would say "C'mon, lighten up sister, it's Christmas."
But sister does not grant license for an unconditional good time--not on Christmas or any other occasion.
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The Lord's Prayer- Roy Harper (Lifemask album).
The Lord's Prayer- Roy Harper (Lifemask album).

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Thomas Jefferson's revolutionary take on the Bible reissued
Former US president took a razor to parts of the Gospels he did not agree with to compile his own version
David Shariatmadari
guardian.co.uk, Tuesday 17 January 2012 13.29 GMT

Portrait of Thomas Jefferson, the third president of the US. Only friends and family knew of the existence of the Jefferson Bible. Photograph: Getty
He was one of the men who laid the foundations for God's own country, but Thomas Jefferson had his own revolutionary ideas about the Bible.
The third US president's unwillingness to swallow miracles such as the virgin birth led him to cut out parts of the Gospels he did not agree with and compile his own version.
The result, known informally as The Jefferson Bible, has been published in a new edition by Tarcher, part of Penguin USA, this month.
The original, which has been painstakingly restored by the Smithsonian Institution in Washington DC, where it is on display, was created by Jefferson in 1820 by cutting out passages from six other volumes with razors. He then pasted them into a book of his own, which he had bound.
During Jefferson's life the book's existence was known only to his friends and family. His great-granddaughter sold it to the Smithsonian Institution in 1895 and it was finally published in 1904, 78 years after his death.
A heavily redacted version of Jesus's life story, The Jefferson Bible omits many passages fundamental to mainstream Christianity, including the resurrection and ascension to heaven, the holy ghost and holy trinity. The Smithsonian said Jefferson left out "those elements that he could not support through reason or that he believed were later embellishments".
Mitch Horowitz, editor of the new edition, said: "Ethically, Jefferson was a Christian, but – as he put it – 'a real Christian,' who believed in the moral philosophy of Christ rather than the religion later created around Christ, which Jefferson felt would have appalled the man himself."
Jefferson's unorthodox approach to Christianity did not go unnoticed at the time, though it might come as a surprise to many on the religious right today, who tend to revere the Founding Fathers. Despite the fact that he would later allow the Capitol building to be used for church services each Sunday, Jefferson was described by preacher John Mason as someone who "writes against the truths of God's word; who makes not even a profession of Christianity".
The author of the declaration of independence had been strongly influenced by the rationalism of enlightenment France, where he served as US ambassador from 1785-1789. Earlier in the century, philosophers such as Voltaire and Rousseau had disparaged the influence of the clergy and Christian institutions and sought to understand Jesus as a man whose teachings had been distorted by later generations.
"There's an incredible beauty and realism in Jefferson's rendition," said Horowitz. "The figure of Christ emerges as a vivid and consistent figure of great moral power. What Jefferson did was create a deeply persuasive historical and ethical portrait of a great teacher."
The exhibition at the Smithsonian continues until May.
Former US president took a razor to parts of the Gospels he did not agree with to compile his own version
David Shariatmadari
guardian.co.uk, Tuesday 17 January 2012 13.29 GMT

Portrait of Thomas Jefferson, the third president of the US. Only friends and family knew of the existence of the Jefferson Bible. Photograph: Getty
He was one of the men who laid the foundations for God's own country, but Thomas Jefferson had his own revolutionary ideas about the Bible.
The third US president's unwillingness to swallow miracles such as the virgin birth led him to cut out parts of the Gospels he did not agree with and compile his own version.
The result, known informally as The Jefferson Bible, has been published in a new edition by Tarcher, part of Penguin USA, this month.
The original, which has been painstakingly restored by the Smithsonian Institution in Washington DC, where it is on display, was created by Jefferson in 1820 by cutting out passages from six other volumes with razors. He then pasted them into a book of his own, which he had bound.
During Jefferson's life the book's existence was known only to his friends and family. His great-granddaughter sold it to the Smithsonian Institution in 1895 and it was finally published in 1904, 78 years after his death.
A heavily redacted version of Jesus's life story, The Jefferson Bible omits many passages fundamental to mainstream Christianity, including the resurrection and ascension to heaven, the holy ghost and holy trinity. The Smithsonian said Jefferson left out "those elements that he could not support through reason or that he believed were later embellishments".
Mitch Horowitz, editor of the new edition, said: "Ethically, Jefferson was a Christian, but – as he put it – 'a real Christian,' who believed in the moral philosophy of Christ rather than the religion later created around Christ, which Jefferson felt would have appalled the man himself."
Jefferson's unorthodox approach to Christianity did not go unnoticed at the time, though it might come as a surprise to many on the religious right today, who tend to revere the Founding Fathers. Despite the fact that he would later allow the Capitol building to be used for church services each Sunday, Jefferson was described by preacher John Mason as someone who "writes against the truths of God's word; who makes not even a profession of Christianity".
The author of the declaration of independence had been strongly influenced by the rationalism of enlightenment France, where he served as US ambassador from 1785-1789. Earlier in the century, philosophers such as Voltaire and Rousseau had disparaged the influence of the clergy and Christian institutions and sought to understand Jesus as a man whose teachings had been distorted by later generations.
"There's an incredible beauty and realism in Jefferson's rendition," said Horowitz. "The figure of Christ emerges as a vivid and consistent figure of great moral power. What Jefferson did was create a deeply persuasive historical and ethical portrait of a great teacher."
The exhibition at the Smithsonian continues until May.

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