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Post  Yakima Canutt on Tue May 31, 2016 9:12 am


As Civil War hits theaters and flies its way to the kind of box office Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice could have earned, things continue to reshuffle at Warner Bros. This one is big. According to The Hollywood Reporter, (last month) Ben Affleck has become executive producer on the already-filming Justice League movie.

Affleck and writer Chris Terrio are going to shape up the script to make sure it’s something people might actually want to see. Once filming is complete, Affleck will have some say in post-production concerns. This means The Batfleck is now creatively involved in the film on a very real level.

Hold up, the red phone is ringing. Oh hey, it’s Faraci, who has this to add:

My sources have told me that Affleck was incredibly unhappy about the reception of BvS. He felt humiliated after spending so much of the press tour saying how much better this film would be than Daredevil. On top of that his agent was furious when Kevin Tsujihara jumped the gun and announced him as the director of The Batman - there were still negotiations happening.

This move seems to help placate Affleck while also edging Zack Snyder out of a controlling central position in the DC Movieverse.

This is just the latest step in an ongoing shakeup at Warner Bros in response to Batman v Superman’s cranky reception. While it’s fascinating to see played out in public like this, the bottom line is a hope that these movies will maybe get good. With the help of The Batfleck, a sortof talented filmmaker, that comes closer to being a reality.

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Post  Yakima Canutt on Tue May 31, 2016 9:20 am


Seismic Warner-DC Shakeup Confirmed
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Korematsu has confirmed a major reorganization at Warner Bros regarding the approach to the still-building film series based on its DC Comics properties. Warner Bros declined comment, but sources with knowledge of the reorganization have confirmed that DC chief content officer Geoff Johns, who helped establish the brand’s presence on television, and WB EVP Jon Berg will now co-run DC Films. While DC Films has long been a production banner within Warner Bros, it will now exist as a formal division as the studio seeks a course correction after the mixed response to Batman v Superman: Dawn Of Justice earlier this year.

Batman v Superman was not a flop by any measure, but the film received mixed reactions from fans and was panned by most critics. The superhero tentpole also performed slightly below expectations, grossing about $870 million since debuting March 25. Meanwhile, rival Marvel’s Captain America: Civil War, which mines similar territory but is tonally very different, was a critical smash that has already made $957 million in just under three weeks. It also looks on track to break $1 billion before its first month of release is over.

However, while the WB move is a major step for the studio, it is, we’re hearing, not a reactionary one. DC Films is not being created as a clone of Marvel Studios, nor does Warners intend to copy the Marvel method of making films — which is to say, Johns and Berg won’t be occupying a role similar to Kevin Feige at Marvel. We’ve been told that the so-called “director-driven” approach Warner Bros has touted since first announcing the DC Extended Universe is very much still in effect. Johns and Berg, who will still report to their respective superiors within Warner Bros as they attend to their other duties, will be providing guidance and structure to the task of building out the DCEU. Individual directors will therefore retain control over key decisions including casting, aesthetics, and certain story elements.



That’s in keeping with recent news coming out of Warner Bros. As Deadline Bollywood exclusively reported this month, Ben Affleck, who starred as Batman in BvS and was already on track to direct, co-write, and star in a stand-alone Batman film, has been made an executive producer on the now in-production Justice League film. Berg is an integral part of that growing relationship with Affleck — he worked with the actor-director on the Oscar-winning Argo, as well as Affleck’s upcoming Warner Bros crime thriller Live By Night.

There’s also this week’s news that Margo Robbie, who plays Harley Quinn in the upcoming Suicide Squad, was instrumental in the successful pitch to make a film based on DC comics’ roster of female villains and heroes.

Berg has already been heavily involved in the DC Extended Universe (WB’s answer to the Marvel Cinematic Universe). He’s worked on Batman v Superman, Suicide Squad, Wonder Woman and Justice League. Johns, meanwhile, brings his expertise on DC lore and history to the DCEU. A longtime comics writer, he’s behind the upcoming reboot of the DC comics universe, “Rebirth,” alongside his involvement in DC television, and he’s co-writing the stand-alone Batman film with Affleck. Both will serve as executive producers on Justice League.

The main thing, so we’re hearing, is that Warner Bros and DC have apparently been paying close attention to the reaction of fans and critics to Batman v Superman and the studio is keenly interested in being responsive as it maps out the future of the DC universe. The next films include Suicide Squad, which hits theaters in August, followed by Wonder Woman on June 2, 2017, and Justice League Part One, currently filming, scheduled for November 17 of that year. They’ll be followed by The Flash, still set for March 16, 2018 despite the exit of director Seth Grahame-Smith, and the James Wan-directed Aquaman on July 27 of that year.

Other films to come are Shazam and Justice League Part Two in 2019, and Cyborg and Green Lantern Corps in 2020.

THR first reported on these changes, which were first rumored on Heroic Hollywood.

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Post  Yakima Canutt on Tue May 31, 2016 9:26 am


Speaking to tabloid rag The Daily Mail over the weekend, Jeremy Irons (Sir Alfred Pennyworths) became the latest critic of Batman v Superman’s myriad failures, taking aim at the movie’s convoluted pacing and agreeing that the film deserved the press it received:

'I mean it took £800 million, so the kicking didn’t matter but it was sort of overstuffed…

It was very muddled. I think the next one [Justice League] will be simpler. The script is certainly a lot smaller, it’s more linear'


[Note: Irons probably mean $800 million, which is closer to the film’s $871 million takings, rather than the equivalent in sterling pounds—which is closer to $1.2 billion.]


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Post  Yakima Canutt on Tue May 31, 2016 9:35 am


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If you're going to assemble the greatest superheroes on your earth you're gonna need a threat to fight. So what - or who - is the threat that the Justice League will face in Justice League? Is it Darkseid, who was heavily hinted at in Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice? Is it an evil Superman, as also heavily hinted at in Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice? Or is it... a minor character who only showed up in BvS' deleted scenes?

Yup, it's Steppenwolf. When the deleted scene of Lex Luthor meeting a monster in his Kryptonian warm bath first popped up online the internet thought that monster was Steppenwolf. I couldn't believe it - the monster barely looked like Steppenwolf, and in fact his whole aesthetic was nothing like that of the New Gods, the corner of the DC Comics universe from which Steppenwolf arises. But I was wrong! Boy was I wrong.

In the comics Steppenwolf is the uncle of Darkseid and the military leader of Apokolips. He has a cool energy axe and rides an even cooler hoverbike. I assume those elements will not make it through Zack Snyder unscathed. In terms of the coolest characters from the Fourth World books he's pretty low on totem pole - he was once killed by Clock King, fer chrissakes In the more recent "New 52" continuity of DC, Steppenwolf actually sees some action and invades Earth - I'm assuming that's the run they're basing Justice League on, at least lightly. On some levels that makes him a fairly blank slate for the movies, and keeps Zack Snyder's hands off cool characters like Granny Goodness and Glorious Godfrey and Orion and Metron and Big Barda and Mister Miracle. I'm pretty okay with them burning Steppenwolf off on what I hope is the last Zack Snyder film in the DC Murderverse.

In Justice League Steppenwolf has a contentious history with Darkseid, which could be why he's invading the Earth. But stopping him - and, I'm assuming, his Parademon hordes - requires more power than the members of the Justice League can muster, and so they must turn to a dead friend for help...

Darkseid is a presence in the movie, and fully appears at the end of the film, but don't expect him to do much. The other DC solo movies between Justice League and Justice League 2 take place in realish time - ie, The Flash takes place after Justice League - so whatever evil plan Darkseid has will wait until Justice League 2 to be revealed.



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Post  Yakima Canutt on Tue May 31, 2016 11:18 am




Eisenberg's Luthor has been confirmed for Justice League: Episode I.


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Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

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or maybe the kid just doesn't like Tony Stark ... all the quipping

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Post  Yakima Canutt on Thu Jul 21, 2016 5:54 pm

Zed wrote:
As Civil War hits theaters and flies its way to the kind of box office Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice could have earned, things continue to reshuffle at Warner Bros.


o drat, o krampus, i just remembered i forgot to see Capitan America's Civil War!  Now it looks like I'll have to wait until September for the stream version.   Neutral





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Post  Yakima Canutt on Wed Jul 27, 2016 10:27 am



losto DC-Marvel revelations at San Diego Cosplay Con, almost too too many

the biggest? the disclosure of Baron Mordo's wiFi passcode in the Professor Cumberstrange trailer (srsly)

"THE IMPOSSIBILITIES ARE ENDLESS"

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Post  Yakima Canutt on Thu Jul 28, 2016 9:50 am


i was pleesed to see that Disney-Marvel took my recommendation to introduce THE VULTURE in Teen Spider-Man's Homecoming


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Post  Yakima Canutt on Sun Jul 31, 2016 6:48 am


i assume everyone watched the new Wonder Woman trailer. revelation: Chris Pine is as sassy as Gal Gadot is sexxy.

(like a Velveeta glove cast in formica)



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Post  pinhedz on Tue Aug 02, 2016 11:34 am

Yakima Canutt wrote:
i assume everyone watched the new Wonder Woman trailer.
We did, of course.

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Post  Yakima Canutt on Wed Aug 03, 2016 5:50 am


Good news for Paramount and their galactic explorers, Warner-DC's hyped "Suicide Squad" looks to be a flaming rubbish heap (tho it has a few defenders, who call it "subversive")

IndieWire:
Just when you think the summer movie season can’t get any worse, along come the “Worst. Heroes. Ever.” And while the film’s official tagline is selling its stars a little bit short (surely last year’s incarnation of The Fantastic Four still holds that dubious distinction), the mundane, milquetoast, and often mind-bogglingly stupid “Suicide Squad” almost makes good on the threat of its marketing campaign.

unfortunately, it probably won't be the last we'll see of that atrocious Jared Leto Joker, with his "Look at me, I'm deranged" forehead tattoo

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Post  Yakima Canutt on Wed Aug 03, 2016 9:25 am


er egum, it's still on track for the biggest August opening ever by large margin

and we'll see if it sets a new record for biggest drop-off between weeks two and three...

as for Star Trek Beyond, time shall tell if it being a pretty good movie that gives people a pretty good feeling, as opposed to most of the competition, which be depressing messes ... we'll see if that gives Beyond a modicum of summer "legs" going forward

China could be quite crucial for Beyond, September will reveal if Jack Ma dispersed his marketing qi properly

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It was revealed very early in the week by Marvel Studios that Avengers: Infinity War – Part I will now be known as Avengers: Infinity War, and what was previously known as Avengers: Infinity War – Part II has been given the temporary title of Untitled Avengers. Christopher Markus and Stephen McFeely, who are writing both films, also gave an update on the scripts, pointing out they were “on the third draft of movie one and the second draft of movie two.”

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Post  Yakima Canutt on Thu Aug 11, 2016 9:11 am


CONFIRMED - The Dreaded Tinkerer will menace Young Spidey in Peter Parker's Homecoming


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Post  Yakima Canutt on Fri Aug 19, 2016 10:52 am



Breaking right now -  Zendaya reportedly playing Mary Jane Watson in 'Homecoming of The Spider'

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Post  pinhedz on Fri Aug 19, 2016 11:22 am

Sure, why not?


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Post  Yakima Canutt on Fri Aug 19, 2016 7:11 pm


maybe Kodak Black could play Flash Thompson


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Post  pinhedz on Sat Aug 20, 2016 7:23 am

Yakima Canutt wrote:

Breaking right now -  Zendaya reportedly playing Mary Jane Watson in 'Homecoming of The Spider'

Just a minor problem (easily fixable, I think) is that teenage spy is a stick girl, while Mary Jane has always been depicted as voluptuous.

I assume Hollywood can apply prosthetics to correct the discrepancy. silent

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Post  Yakima Canutt on Sat Aug 20, 2016 9:01 am


in her portrayal of Tragic Gwen Stacy, Emma Stone solved that potential problem by oozing much personality with acterly acting as distraction.


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Warner Bros. has big plans for Justice League Dark, and now they’ve set a "mighty talented" filmmaker to take the helm of the DC title. While an animated iteration of the title is poised for release sometime this year, THR reports that Edge of Tomorrow and The Bourne Identity director Doug Liman has been tapped to take the helm of the live-action Justice League Dark movie, which focuses on the DC superheroes with more supernatural powers as opposed to the bright and shiny heroes of the Justice League proper. The protagonists of Justice League Dark aren’t exactly antiheroes either, as the comics lineup has included folks like John Constantine and Swamp Thing. When the film hits theaters, however, it’ll be called Dark Universe according to Variety, likely to avoid audience confusion.

This project was initially set up at Warner Bros. with Guillermo del Toro writing and directing, and while del Toro ultimately left the project to focus on other things, he did say in 2013 that the film was being envisioned as part of the DC Extended Universe. So yes, this will be added to DC’s slate of films that now includes Man of Steel, Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice, and Suicide Squad. Variety notes that Michael Gilio is writing the script, so it’s unclear how much (if any) of del Toro’s work will remain, but Oscar heavy hitter Scott Rudin is producing the pic, which is a huge change of pace from WB’s DC films thus far.

THR states that Del Toro will still be a producer on the project, but Liman is spearheading things as the director and he marks a fascinating choice, perhaps. Tonally, Liman is much more about keeping things swift and hypothetically entertaining, albeit always with a focus on character. Films like Edge of Tomorrow and even Mr. and Mrs. Smith are tons of fun, according to some, but there’s also an underlying sadness throughout, it has been said. That makes him a swell fit for this piece of material, maybe, and no doubt Warner Bros. has heard the call and wants to ensure that their superhero films are actually, you know, joyful—Liman is possibly a great pick.

However, this also signals bad bad news for Gambit. Liman signed on to direct the Marvel X-Men spinoff for Fox last year, with Channing Tatum attached to star, but the project missed its start-date and was pushed back significantly so more work could be done on the script. Last we heard filming was aiming to get underway at the end of this year while Liman squeezed in a smaller scale project, a sniper drama called The Wall, but with the filmmaker signing on to Justice League Dark he is no longer involved with Gambit. That said, Fox is still intent on starting production in January as Josh Zetumer (RoboCop ReMake) works on the script, so we may hear yet another new director announcement in short order.

Before Liman, Warner Bros. was reportedly considering Evil Dead director Fede Alvarez and Big Bad Wolves helmers Aharon Keshales & Navot Papushado, but it’s clear they changed course and opted to go with someone more established. A rumored cast wishlist made the rounds last November that included Colin Farrell for John Constantine and Ron Perlman for Swamp Thing but Variety notes that the lineup will consist of Constantine, Swamp Thing, Deadman, Zatanna, and Etrigan the Demon.

Liman most recently helmed the 1980s cartel drama American Made starring Tom Cruise, but that doesn’t open until later next year. It’s unclear when, exactly, Warner Bros. is hoping to get Justice League Dark into theaters, but one imagines sooner rather than later.

As it stands now, Zack Snyder is currently filming Justice League for release next November, while Wonder Woman is in the can for release next summer. After that, director James Wan is gearing up to start work on Aquaman and filmmaker Rick Famuyiwa is in the midst of casting for The Flash, with both of those films eyeing 2018 releases. Suicide Squad 2 may or may not be in the works, but now it looks like Warner Bros. will be slipping Justice League Dark in there somewhere.


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Post  pinhedz on Fri Aug 26, 2016 3:36 am

Yakima Canutt wrote:in her portrayal of Tragic Gwen Stacy, Emma Stone solved that potential problem by oozing much personality with acterly acting as distraction.
I don't know if you'd say teenage spy oozes, but her broad approach to acting might be equally distracting:  

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Nicholas P. Fury wrote:The protagonists of Justice League Dark aren’t exactly antiheroes either, as the comics lineup has included folks like John Constantine and Swamp Thing. When the film hits theaters, however, it’ll be called Dark Universe according to Variety, likely to avoid audience confusion.


wha wha wha? how can they not call the thing Dark Justice ?!1?

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