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Post  pinhedz on Wed Jan 22, 2014 12:49 pm

Zhenya says it's a revolution.

Here Ruslana slips onto the stage a picks up a drum.

The camera man notices:



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Post  pinhedz on Wed Jan 22, 2014 12:51 pm

The Dakh Daughters make their political preferences known.

Is it significant when the riot police start grooving to the music? Shocked 


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Post  pinhedz on Wed Jan 22, 2014 12:51 pm

Ruslana says this video is set in the near future:




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Post  pinhedz on Wed Jan 22, 2014 12:54 pm

Watch for Zhenya's mom at 3:32. cheers 

pinhedz wrote:The Dakh Daughters make their political preferences known.

Is it significant when the riot police start grooving to the music? Shocked 


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Post  pinhedz on Thu Jan 23, 2014 9:41 am

The "Orange Revolution" was bloodless--this one not so:


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Post  pinhedz on Fri Jan 24, 2014 12:20 am

Oleh Tiahnybok says "We're going to kick the authorities out."

Could be hard, though.

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Post  pinhedz on Wed Jan 29, 2014 10:17 am

My sources tell me that Zhenya was right--it's a real revolution. Shocked 

More real than even the Orange Revolution.

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Post  pinhedz on Mon Feb 03, 2014 1:03 am

The problem is that it seems to be a true grass-roots movement.

True grass-roots movements don't have a strong organizational hierarchy.

That means that if the government collapses, there will be a power vacuum.

And the first to move into a power vacuum are always the gangsters. Neutral 

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Post  Old Mack on Wed Feb 05, 2014 3:11 pm

I've been reading up on this and have concluded...it's all one big publicity stun.

It is a well known fact Ukrainians are very jealous people and have lived in Russia's shadow; they want to be recognized around the world.

Kiev (AFP) - Ukrainian lawmakers failed to agree on curbing the president's powers at a stormy debate on Tuesday as international pressure grew for ending the two-month crisis with the expected arrival of the EU foreign policy chief.

http://news.yahoo.com/ukraine-leader-slams-opposition-taking-sick-leave-210632716.html


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Post  Old Mack on Wed Feb 05, 2014 5:34 pm

This has all the markings of professional wrestling !

Ukraine protesters replace statue of Lenin with a golden TOILET

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2551622/Ukraine-protesters-replace-statue-Lenin-golden-TOILET-highlight-corruption-government.html#ixzz2sQW50Fdl


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Post  Old Mack on Tue Feb 11, 2014 6:54 pm

A PARTY !

Kiev (AFP) - Activists took to a piano perched on Kiev's most famous anti-government barricade Monday, playing Chopin, the national anthem and the Beatles' "Let it Be" as riot police looked on.

http://news.yahoo.com/chopin-beatles-echo-over-kiev-barricade-154824572.html


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Post  pinhedz on Wed Feb 12, 2014 8:50 am

Old Mack wrote:It is a well known fact Ukrainians are very jealous people and have lived in Russia's shadow; they want to be recognized around the world.
They are also still a bit miffed on account of Russia starved about a quarter of their population to death back in the '30s.

Insofar as there's an ego component, the fact that Russia started out in Kiiv has something to do with that.

Borodin's "Prince Igor" is about to open at the Met, with a Ukrainian soprano. The pre-opening publicity is emphasizing that the opera--by a Russian composer--is based on the 12th-century epic "The Tale of Igor's Campaign," written in Ukraine.

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Post  woo on Wed Feb 12, 2014 10:37 am






I enjoyed one of those songs...which one I don't remember even though it was only like ten minutes ago.

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Post  Old Mack on Thu Feb 13, 2014 5:47 pm

I read a Judge who had ties to the goings on was murdered. They say their not sure if it is connected tho.

Kill Judges / Police, etc...in cold blood is not cool no matter what the cause.

This guy legally* got what his hand called for: South Vietnamese General Nguyen Ngoc Loan executing a Viet Cong officer with a single shot to the head. Photographs do not tell the whole truth, however. The prisoner had just killed at least eight people, (police officers and family members / and that was just the one day-his body count is much higher) which is what led Gen Loan to carry out the execution.

* martial law had been declared which gave him the authority

The 2010 book, This Time We Win: Revisiting the Tet Offensive, offers a detailed, sympathetic picture of Loan, portraying him as a relatively honest and uncorrupted officer, who cleaned up and stabilized a difficult Saigon security situation. He was also a staunch South Vietnamese nationalist, refusing to give Americans special treatment in his jurisdiction. For example, he rejected the arrest of a Vietnamese mayor by American military police and insisted that only South Vietnamese authorities could arrest and detain South Vietnamese citizens. He also insisted that U.S. civilians, including journalists, fell under South Vietnamese jurisdiction while in Saigon. Loan's uncompromising stand caused him to be regarded as a troublemaker by the Johnson administration. Loan was also skeptical of the U.S. CIA-backed Phoenix Program to attack and neutralize the clandestine Vietcong infrastructure.


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Post  pinhedz on Fri Feb 14, 2014 2:00 am

Gen. Loan had a pizza shop in Northern Virginia--not far from Svetlana's current house.

The execution is on youtube, and it's heavily "liked" (not sure what folks like about it--different things, I reckon).

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Post  pinhedz on Sun Feb 16, 2014 12:53 pm

Ruslana says throw the bums out. bounce 



[not great English here, but a lot of us wouldn't do very well speaking Ukrainian]

"It's unbelievable what's going on my country," Ruslana said.  "This is Ukraine.  I represent my country for many, many years.  I am a singer.  I am a musician.  I want peace and of course I want a lot of changes in my country."

Ruslana also said that the demonstrators are determined to stay strong until they see change.

"We are still together," she said.  "We know that we have power and we want to ask Yanukovych, please stop.  You're a dictator.  We have a lot of aggression from this government.  Please stop, please stop."

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Post  pinhedz on Sun Feb 16, 2014 12:56 pm

More fluent in Russian:


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Post  pinhedz on Mon Feb 17, 2014 4:55 pm

Ruslana plays Beethoven, the Beatles, Abba and finally the Ukrainian national anthem--

Ще не вмерла Україна, ні слава, ні воля,
Ще нам, браття-українці, усміхнеться доля.
Згинуть наші вороженьки, як роса на сонці,
Запануєм і ми, браття, у своїй сторонці.

Душу й тіло ми положим за нашу свободу,
І покажем, що ми, браття, козацького роду!

--on the worst piano in the world:


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Post  pinhedz on Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:11 pm

It's getting worse


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Post  Old Mack on Fri Feb 21, 2014 8:52 am

So...I've read !

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Post  Old Mack on Fri Feb 21, 2014 7:39 pm

Ukraine Defense Minister Pavel Lebedev has refused to take multiple phone calls made personally by Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel, the Pentagon said Thursday.

“Secretary Hagel has been trying, himself, since early this week,” Pentagon press secretary Rear Adm. John Kirby told reporters. Lebedev refuses “to communicate, to accept a phone call” from Hagel or the Pentagon.

“We haven’t been able to connect with anybody from the Defense Ministry there in Ukraine,” he said. “We’ve been trying pretty diligently here in the Pentagon, we’ve been trying pretty diligently this whole week. I’d say it’s pretty unusual.”

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Post  pinhedz on Sat Feb 22, 2014 8:55 am

A statement just came out from the Ukrainian Embassy in Washington.  It's signed by the Ambassador and what looks like the entire staffs of the Embassy and all the Ukrainian consulates from New York to San Francisco.

The thing is--this statement looks UNAUTHORIZED, because it says the signatories favor a "European future."  That means they want to join the European Union in opposition to the position of the Yanukovich government. Shocked 

This is very gutsy, and either Yanukovich is on the way out, or this Ambassador might get recalled (if he does get recalled, he might choose to defect rather than go back home):

"It is impossible to keep silent when your Motherland is on fire, people are dying from bullets, there is shock, pain and suffering, and a real threat to the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Ukraine."

"We express our sincere condolences to the families of the deceased and share their pain."

"Ukrainians fought for centuries for their right to live in a free, democratic and independent country, which our generation must build."

"We are with our people, we stand for our people’s genuine European future."

"At this tragic time, wisdom must prevail, there must be an immediate end to bloodshed and fratricide."

"We call for a peaceful resolution of the confrontation for the sake of the entire people of Ukraine, for the unity and the future of our country. 


Signed -- by just about everybody  

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Post  pinhedz on Sat Feb 22, 2014 12:43 pm

Ruslana's started wearing bullet-proof gear when she goes up to the mic.

Along with the bullets, she's got a Russian MVD shoulder patch in her hand.


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Post  pinhedz on Sun Feb 23, 2014 5:44 am

She's back--just sprung from prison. affraid 


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Post  pinhedz on Sun Feb 23, 2014 5:48 am

Does anybody think macho-man Vitali Klitchko can go 9 rounds with Yulia?

Don't make me laugh. Laughing 


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