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Post  eddie on Mon Jul 29, 2013 9:52 pm

In medieval times, there was no personal privacy; the idea of personal privacy developed with the idea of a more advanced civilisation. But the wheel now appears to have turned full circle.

Log on to AATU, or almost any other internet site, and 'cookies' will attach themselves to your every keystroke. This was brought home forcefully to me a couple of days ago when I ran a routine anti-virus scan and, to my amazement, discovered that I'd picked up 35 cookies in the space of 3 days.

'Ah!', say its advocates, 'But you'd only be allowed to experience the delights of internet browsing with the support of online advertising- and all that goes with it'. Maybe so, but my doubts are starting to increase.

Maybe I shouldn't have watched Terry Gilliam's 'Brazil' the other night? In a slightly less fantastical style, the Bourne Trilogy seems to have had its fingers on the pulse of what is now technologically possible in terms of personal surveillance.

Buildings once made of stone are now made of glass. We are all being observed, at work and play.

I once worked with a London Underground Station Supervisor (let's call him Les, to protect his privacy) who had to be medically retired because he came to the delusional belief that Management had implanted a microchip under his skin and were monitoring his every move. But, given that England is the most cctv-scrutinised society on earth, I'm starting to wonder whether Les' delusions might one day soon have some grounding in reality.

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Post  eddie on Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:39 pm

^ All foretold in Revelations, mate. Without a 666 barcode implanted in your brow, you'll soon be nobody.. Heh heh.

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Post  pinhedz on Tue Jul 30, 2013 7:51 am

eddie wrote:Log on to AATU, or almost any other internet site, and 'cookies' will attach themselves to your every keystroke. This was brought home forcefully to me a couple of days ago when I ran a routine anti-virus scan and, to my amazement, discovered that I'd picked up 35 cookies in the space of 3 days.
I have to enable cookies in order to log on to ATU, and when I log off I disable cookies and delete the collection.

A wise man once said -- "If you are using a free internet service, you are not the consumer, you are the product."

That exactly right--we compose the "content," on the this forum, which the advertisers hope will attract others, who will see the ads.

So, has this forum brought in any revenue for the sponsors?  If not, we aren't doing our job. Razz

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Post  pinhedz on Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:06 am

btw--I'm a big fan of Terry Gilliam and I thought "Brazil" was a heckuva movie (in a good way).

But at the same time, I know that if anyone is watching my every move, it isn't the gub'mint--it's Google.


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Post  pinhedz on Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:10 am

Do we still have choices? It does seem that soon we will have to pay all of our bills online, so we can't choose to live without a computer (unless I move to a cabin in the north woods).

But no one is forcing us to use social media. For my part, I don't much care, because I'm not kinky enough to attract any attention.   


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Post  eddie on Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:29 pm

In Stieg Larsson's Millennium Trilogy, anti-heroine Lisbeth Salander is able to destroy her friend Blomqvist's persecutor by duplicating (and robbing) his bank accounts.

Personally, I try to avoid online banking and bill-paying as far as possible. I figure that sending a cheque by snail mail, and investing in the price of a postage stamp to send it, reduces the possibility of being ripped off- to some degree, at least. I've read too much about criminal gangs duplicating websites to feel comfortable about posting bank account details online. Am I getting paranoid? Maybe, but perhaps that's no bad thing?

BTW- If you ever receive a phone call from someone claiming to represent Microsoft (or your computer's manufacturer) and offering "help" with a pc problem, they're almost certainly trying to rip you off. Never give bank account details to someone you don't know over a phone line. Obvious maybe, but people do get taken in by such scammers.


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Post  eddie on Tue Jul 30, 2013 1:25 pm

pinhedz wrote:unless I move to a cabin in the north woods

Hmm. Tell me more...

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Post  eddie on Tue Jul 30, 2013 1:29 pm

Anyone read EM Forster's short Sci-Fi story "The Machine Stops"?

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Post  pinhedz on Tue Jul 30, 2013 2:44 pm

eddie wrote:Tell me more...
The idea would be to make sure that when the time comes the doctors won't be able to get there in time to interfere:




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Post  pinhedz on Tue Jul 30, 2013 3:00 pm

eddie wrote:Anyone read EM Forster's short Sci-Fi story "The Machine Stops"?
I haven't, but evidently it was made into a film.

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Post  pinhedz on Tue Jul 30, 2013 3:09 pm

The Google earth overhead image of my house is actually long out of date--it shows a little sapling where there is now a big bushy tulip tree (no sign of me coming or going).

But the gub'mint isn't just "less than 50%" of the surveillance--the gub'mint actually pays almost no attention at all to boring ordinary folks.

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Post  pinhedz on Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:27 am



Like all stories about the future, some things are ridiculously wrong:

-- The woman is depicted turning the pages of a book.

-- The characters are depicted as NOT OBESE.

Obviously, the favorite past time would have been--not reading--but EATING.

But there are some things he got right:

-- "I know several 1000 people--human relation has advanced enormously."

... also ...

-- All of the people who knew how to fix the metro system have died.  The mending apparatus itself is in need of mending.

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Post  eddie on Wed Jul 31, 2013 1:18 pm

pinhedz wrote:-- All of the people who knew how to fix the metro system have died.  The mending apparatus itself is in need of mending.

  

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Post  eddie on Wed Jul 31, 2013 1:47 pm

I'd be surprised if EM Forster's story weren't an influence, direct or indirect, on this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qEsTCTuajE
Welcome to the Machine- Pink Floyd.

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Post  eddie on Wed Jul 31, 2013 7:08 pm

Cold callers have been bothering me recently, despite the fact that I've signed up for British Telecom's filtering service. Obviously, I've neglected to tick a box on some form stating that I don't wish to hear from such people- and now my name & phone number are on a database- which, in turn, will be sold to other cold-calling companies.

How many of us really read through all the "Terms & Conditions" before signing up for some online product/service? There aren't enough hours in the day.

I'd keep my answerphone permanently switched on, but this creates problems of its own.

Ho hum.


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Post  pinhedz on Wed Jul 31, 2013 11:56 pm

Can you ask the callers to put your name on their "do-not-call" list?

It's US law now that telemarketers have to respect the wishes of those who make that request.

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Post  Yakima Canutt on Thu Aug 01, 2013 12:30 pm

You know, re the whole ish of monitor vs. merrimack, it is begging a question - ''who is watching the watchers?''  There was an early season 3 TNG sode titled 'Who Watches The Watchers' and while the premise is OK, the execution is poor I'd say.  Tho it does feature Ray Wise ( Leland Palmer from THE TWIN PEAKS) as a PROTO-VULCAN


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Post  pinhedz on Sat Aug 17, 2013 8:06 am

There is a new line of "stealthwear" that the designers say will protect your privacy (it's opaque to electromagnetic waves of most frequencies):




Some of the items have the Sharia stamp of approval:


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Post  pinhedz on Sun Aug 18, 2013 4:22 am

Jack Ohman (University of Minnesota alumnus) helps put things in perspective.  Do people really have such big egos that they think somebody is listening to them?

Gruschenka used to date Jack Ohman, but he was really too young and immature for her.

She finally dumped him because he only cared about "media hype," and was not a person of substance (but this was long ago and far away).

Grushchenka could be cruel--and the pinhed knows whereof he speaks.

But I digress--here's Jack Ohman's cartoon:


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Post  pinhedz on Sun Aug 18, 2013 5:06 am

Speaking of Grushchenka, it has been awhile since I last used my surveillance abilities to check on her whereabouts.

Seems she's in Azerbaijan, and she's just put Dick Cheney in his place, and is now telling off the other guy:


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Post  pinhedz on Sun Aug 18, 2013 8:33 am

Grushchenka applauds as Dick Cheney presents the award to Ashton Kutcher:


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Post  Yakima Canutt on Fri Aug 23, 2013 6:35 pm

Who is Grushenker again? Is that Balsabrain's old flame from when he was stationed in Promyshlenny as a spook doing data sabo-tage on behalf of Special Branch for Fancy Fission, and it is like the reverie that Gru is the dekadentskoy kusochek what got away ... this dude sure enjoys his labyrinthy plottings with a cast of thousands, feck

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Post  pinhedz on Fri Aug 23, 2013 9:09 pm

Grushchenker used to be asked out by spooks, but not so much any more because they tend to be youngish, and she's not their mom.  

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Post  pinhedz on Tue Aug 27, 2013 11:35 am

Grushchenka: "When will this windbag SHADDUP ALREADY?" Mad


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