Social science topic--is social class all about money?

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Social science topic--is social class all about money?

Post  pinhedz on Mon May 06, 2013 7:58 am

This topic first came up on the movie thread, but it's really social science. geek

Doc Watson had stated the shocking notion that one cannot change one's social class with money (wasn't that Gatsby's problem?)

This is in contradiction to an assertion made elsewhere--that "anyone making 10s of millions of dollars a year belongs to the uppermost class." Really? Even if the persion is an ill-mannered bumpkin with no "class" whatever? Shocked In 19th century novels do we not often read about "impoverished nobility?" Would a rich merchant be in a higher social class than they?

I am reminded of the scene in Tom Jones after he had been thrown, broke and ragged, into prison for killing a man during a street brawl. Some investigator suggests that the prisoner is believed to be a "base-born scoundrel and highwayman named Tom Jones." The prison staff reacts with surprise, insisting "That can't be--the man we have in prison is clearly a gentleman."

How does one judge a broke and hungry ragged and dirty person arrested for killing someone in a street brawl to be a "Gentleman?" scratch

I am also reminded of a film called "The Flame of New Orleans" (this was the example on the movie thread) in which Marlene Dietrich informs her stalker (who is in a huff because she said she was "ill," but then she went out with another man):

There is more to being a gentleman than wearing tight pants.
When a lady says she is ill... she is ill.

And a gentleman doesn't go around looking into windows.

And one more free piece of advice...
Stay a sailor, sailor.
It becomes you more.


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Post  pinhedz on Mon May 06, 2013 8:04 am

I remember that back in the days when fancy restaurants had a dress code, Grushchenka was getting ready for the opera, and asked this thought-provoking question:

Grushchenka -- "Why does the Met have no dress code, while restaurants feel they must have one?"

pinhed -- "Because your choice of a fancy restaurant is not enough to prove that you are a gentleman, but choosing to go to the opera is enough proof by itself." geek

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Post  pinhedz on Wed May 29, 2013 11:33 pm

Speaking of Grushchenka she's the perfect example of Class without money:




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