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Post  Yakima Canutt on Mon May 23, 2016 10:23 am

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that's a common misconception that Doohan is doing a terrible Scottish accent and Koenig is doing a bizarre Russian accent.

Craig Ferguson said that Doohan's Scottish accent sounded like "a Pakistani having a stroke" but as Doohan explained, his accent is what the Scotch will sound like in the 23rd century (same for Chekov's Russian flavour).

so what about Picard?  Why does a Frenchman have an English accent?  


This one is trickier.  Originally, Roddenberry wanted the character to be American, of French heritage --to pay spesh tribute to The World Famous Swiss Piccard Twins-- but they ended up casting Patrick Stewart on a fluke. Stewart happened to be in L.A. at the time (he had no intention of moving to USA) and the producers stumbled upon him when he was doing some Shakespearean activities at UCLA.  Roddenberry didn't want a bald Englishman, but was convinced by the others that Stewart was such a bitchin actor that they couldn't pass him up.

So then they thought, "hmm, we got this European, maybe he can do a French accent" - so they asked Patrick to do a French accent, and after hearing it, they said "never ever do that again."

Ok fine, so then Captain Picard is an Englishman of French ancestry - no big deal, a la Ricky Gervais.

But then in Season 4, when Roddenberry's health is declining, he OK's a script in which a battered Picard takes a leave and visits his home in La Barre, France.  Picard's family speak with English accents.

(OK, so Picard is French.  But his fave beverage is Earl Grey tea and he gives lessons in Shakespeare.)

So thus we have a strange thing now in the Star Trek World, in which Russian people speak in a weird Russian accent but French people speak in an English accent.

But I have solved the conundrum - by the 24th century, all of a unified Western Europe will speak English, and being closest to England, they will speak with an English accent.   There, problem solved.  Basketball


Nice try, but don't some French people show up in Star Trek with French accents?  All that is coming to mind now is a holographic French garcon waiter from TNG Season 1 ... I will look into this.

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Post  Yakima Canutt on Mon May 23, 2016 1:27 pm


Throughout the ongoing U.S. presidential election, many people of both major parties have tried to come up with a way to prevent the ascendancy of presumptive Republican nominee Donald Trump, who says he wants to make America great, again. Sonic shaman Carlos Santana of Santana has his own plan, and it involves bringing together those who have devoted their lives to bringing peace to the world.

Speaking with Rolling Stones, Santana lays out his vision for what reporter Andy Greeene calls “a grand summit of peace and love.” “What I want,” the guitarist says, “is to invite the pope, the Dalai Lama, Desmond Tutu, and others who have won Nobel Peace Prizes, seven men and seven women, and invite them together, like in a Star Trek movie. We can go to the Sydney Opera House or a resort in Honolulu.”



Last month, Santana played a trio of dates with Journey that brought back several members from Santana’s classic lineup — including Journey founder Neal Schon, singer Gregg Rolie, percussionist Michael Carabello and drummer Michael Shrieve — to celebrate the release of Santana IV. It was the first time they had performed a full show together since 1971, when drugs and egos helped bring about the disintegration of the group.

“The rock & roll lifestyle was killing people,” Shrieve says. “I can watch old videos of us playing and just smell the cocaine. Man, that’s evil stuff.”

“We were too young to appreciate it the first time around,” Carlos adds. “I was so invested in my agenda. It was my, my, my, my, my, my. Also, nobody was equipped to handle the adulation.”

Still, the idea of a full-scale tour is up in the air, with Schon and Rolie having commitments with Journey and Ringo Starr's All-Starr Rubber Band.

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Post  Yakima Canutt on Thu May 26, 2016 4:48 pm


o jeez, o snijkrunk, so a while ago Faraci reported that forthcoming episodic Star Trek CBS All Access VOD 2017 would take place in the prime universe as made popular by Bill Shatner, Patrick Stewart et al ... most accepted this as likely, as the alternate Paramount "Abramsverse" remains controversial with older fans ...  but now Roddenbury The Lead News is citing a source declaring a contingent at CBS is demanding the new show take place in the Abramsverse, for fiscal reasons - until we know more, we should reman skeptical, as CBS is now a separate entity from Paramount (aside from all-seeing eye of Redstone [Rothstein])




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Post  Yakima Canutt on Fri Jun 03, 2016 5:22 pm


yehbut, there have been rumours of a CBS-Paramount re-merger going down ...

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Can Trek turn around Turtles travesty?

Paramount Pictures focused more on quality rather than quantity for the summer blockbuster season.  But that strategy has left Paramount shell-shocked.  

"Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Out of the Shadows" struggled at the North American box office over the weekend, barely beating out "X-Men: Apocalypse" on its second week, and delivering some serious bad news to the executive offices of Viacom chair Philippe Dauman. The sequel from producer Michael Bay earned just $35.3 million domestically on its opening weekend, and $69.3 million worldwide. It slipped past "Apocalypse," which earned $22.8 million to bring its two-week total to $117 million.

The weekend total for TMNT fell below studio and market estimates, and helped Paramount whimper into the summer movie season that still awaits its remake of "Ben-Hur" as well as the more-anticipated "Star Trek Beyond" on July 22.

"A lot of people feel that this movie and the next Star Trek are absolutely essential for the studio, and even for the management," analyst Matthew Harrigan told Bloomberg. It's especially important for Dauman who is under a lot of internal pressure in the months since becoming the official chairman of Paramount's parent, Viacom, since he seems to now be in a legal war with its 93-year-old biggest shareholder, Sumner Redstone.

Dauman is pushing to sell a minority stake in Paramount, something Redstone reportedly opposes.

So far this year, Paramount has released just nine films, according to The Numbers, with "10 Cloverfield Lane" earning the best box office $72.1 million. The studio has earned $312.8 million in 2016 to this point, giving it a little more than 7 percent of total market share.

Of the major film studios, it puts it ahead of only Sony, which has earned a little less than $293 million, led by "The Angry Birds Movie." Walt Disney Co. dominates the box office with just nine films earning $1.36 billion, commanding nearly 31 percent of the market, according to The Numbers, led by nearly $400 million from "Captain America: Civil War."

In a distant second is Twentieth Century Fox, earning $864.6 million through 11 films, thanks to $363 million from "Deadpool." Warner Bros. has $518.1 million from 19 films, getting its best response so far from "Batman vs. Superman: Dawn of Justicia."

Even Universal Studios is having a stronger year so far than Paramount. Through 10 films, that studio has picked up $370.4 million, despite its biggest success so far coming from "Ride Along 2."

Paramount is not the only studio struggling, however. So far, 2016 has not been the greatest years at the box office. Although technically numbers are up over last year, a lot of that is fueled by the surprise success of "Deadpool," an R-rated outing in the Disney's Marvel franchise. Part of the problem Bloomberg reporters Lucas Shaw and Olga Kharif point out is that a lot of the studios are depending on sequels and revivals this year. Paramount, of course, had the TMNT sequel, but also is depending on the third Trek film in the J.J. Abrams franchise, as well as Timur Bekmambetov's remake of the 1959 Charlton Heston classic that won the actor his only acting Oscar.

This approach might be a dangerous game not just for Paramount, but for all the studios.

"The last few months, a number of sequels have done less than their prior chapters, especially in the U.S.," Paramount's vice chair Rob Moore told the business publication. "It reminds us all that the challenge is to take the characters and stories and make sure we keep putting them in unique, fresh and fun situations."

"Beyond," which struggled with some bad publicity from its teaser trailer last year, is going to depend primarily on good reviews and strong word-of-mouth to help carry it to success levels seen by its predecessors, 2009's "Star Trek" and 2013's "Star Trek Into Darkness." The past two films actually were well-received by critics. "Star Trek" earned a 95 percent approval rating from 330 critics, according to Rotten Tomatoes, while 91 percent of the more than 744,000 people surveyed recommended it.

"Into Darkness" wasn't as strong with critics, but it satisfied 87 percent of more than 250 reviewers. Of the more than 300,000 ticket-buyers who weighed in, 90 percent recommended it to others.

Paramount must hope the script from relative newcomer Doug Jung and co-star Simon Pegg rings well with those critics, all wrapped together by Fast & Furious franchise director Justin Lin. Otherwise, it might be a very long summer for the studio as it tries to regroup from what would turn into a rather disastrous year.



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Post  Yakima Canutt on Fri Jun 10, 2016 2:29 pm


#why

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Post  Yakima Canutt on Fri Jun 10, 2016 3:15 pm


dont know how many folks here have ordered the new STTWOK Director's Cut bluRay, but you might want to keep your DVD edition - there's a weird editing change in an early exchange tween Sulu and Kirstie Alley - either a mistake or footage has been lost Exclamation

but the image quality is an improvement over the previous theatrical cut release - those excessive blue hues are now under control


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Post  Yakima Canutt on Sat Jun 11, 2016 6:39 pm

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dont know how many folks here have ordered the new STTWOK Director's Cut bluRay, but you might want to keep your DVD edition - there's a weird editing change in an early exchange tween Sulu and Kirstie Alley - either a mistake or footage has been lost Exclamation

but the image quality is an improvement over the previous theatrical cut release - those excessive blue hues are now under control



wondering about the bizarre Microsoft Paint box art, by Mondo? my only guess is that they were going for a "fan art" aesthetic


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Post  Yakima Canutt on Sun Jun 12, 2016 5:57 am


supposedly drool-worthy

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Post  Yakima Canutt on Tue Jun 14, 2016 3:33 pm






the real magic of Virtual Reality will let you virtually sit in a chair




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Post  Yakima Canutt on Thu Jun 30, 2016 3:51 am




Remembering Ленинград Anton Viktorovich Yelchin со слезами и радостью и благодарностью



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Post  Yakima Canutt on Thu Jun 30, 2016 10:04 am


some clarifications as per prior discush

Like a Star @ heaven The character of Jean-Luc Picard was named after Dr. Jean-Felix Piccard, a Swiss scientist, high-altitude balloonist, and member of a family of noted explorers. While there is no official source of the name Picard, the character makes occasional allusions to his "famous ancestors" – presumably Jean, Auguste, Jacques and Bertrand Piccard.

Like a Star @ heaven Jean-Felix Piccard was the uncle of Jacques Piccard, who explored the Marianas Trench in 1960. Jacques Piccard's Basthyscaphe (deep sea submarine) was named Trieste, the potential namesake of the USS Trieste.

Like a Star @ heaven It is also worth noting that a "Picard" is a sixteenth and seventeenth century term for someone of an enquiring mindset (derived from the birthplace of John Calvin of Picardy or Picardie). With his interest in the development of Humanism, it is likely Roddenberry knew this. Certainly it is a fitting description of Jean-Luc's character as well as his name.

Like a Star @ heaven Further, there was a 17th-century Catholic priest and astronomer, named Jean Picard, who was the first to measure the Earth's size to a high degree of accuracy, and who kept close contacts with Isaac Newton and Tycho Brahe, who may have also contributed to the character's naming.

Like a Star @ heaven The original casting call sent out to agents asked for the following:
CAPT. Julien Picard – A Caucasian man in his 50s who is very youthful and in prime physical condition. Born in Paris, his Gallic accent appears when deep emotions are triggered. He is definitely a "romantic" and believes strongly in concepts like honor and duty. Capt. Picard commands the Enterprise. He should have a mid-Atlantic accent, and a wonderfully rich speaking voice.


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Following the release of the third and final trailer for Star Trek Beyond, which featured music queen Rihanna’s new single “Sledgehammer”, the stars of the film took to the social medium to express how it helped them cope with the death of their castmate Anton Yelchin.

On Instagram, Zachary Quinto said “after such an unimaginably sad week for our star trek family – @badgalriri brings some light into the darkness.”

His fellow Star Trek Beyond co-star Zoe Saldana echoed those sentiments on her own Instagram account, saying “Thank you @badgalriri, for a beautiful song during one of the most difficult times for our StarTrek family. We know Anton would be proud.”

“Sledgehammer” by Rihanna will be included in the Star Trek Beyond soundtrack. She expressed her love of Star Trek yesterday on Instagram, saying “As a Star Trek fan, I am honored to have the theme song for the new @StarTrekMovie! Hear #SLEDGEHAMMER now on @TIDAL and @itunes”

As we’ve previously reported, Yelchin was fatally struck by his own vehicle outside his home in Studio City, Calif. His death has since been officially ruled an accident.


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STTWOK bd


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Post  Yakima Canutt on Fri Jul 08, 2016 12:24 pm

False Faraci wrote:
Will the new streaming show be a prequel, like Enterprise? Or will it be the next generation for The Next Generation? Neither, I've heard. The show will be set some time after the events of Star Trek: The Undiscovered Country, so between the original series and The Next Generation.

UPDATE! A trusted source has chimed in and told me that it looks like the show will be a seasonal anthology, which means the first season will be set post-Undiscovered Country. After that the entire Star Trek universe is potentially open. So those of you hoping for a post-Dominion War show... don't give up hope. That could come some day.



u might want 2 reconsider your "trusted sources" - Fuller, the guy running the new show, has refuted your scoops, after a good spate of chortling

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Post  Yakima Canutt on Fri Jul 08, 2016 1:06 pm


hmm, so now there are two official timelines in which Captain Krik and his crew exist

in one timeline, Hikaru Sulu is straight ... and in other timeline in which divergence was caused by time-traveling Romulan, Sulu is gay

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/george-takei-reacts-gay-sulu-909154



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hmm, so now there are two official timelines in which Captain Krik and his crew exist

in one timeline, Hikaru Sulu is straight ... and in other timeline in which divergence was caused by time-traveling Romulan, Sulu is gay

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/george-takei-reacts-gay-sulu-909154



perhaps Takei the actor is offended ... I think he tried to portray Sulu as hetero, and he's miffed that he didn't fool anyone


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by Pegg's logic, Alternate (Kelvin Timeline) Sulu is straight until the age of 25, when an ahead of schedule field promotion leads to a psychosexual transformation

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/jul/08/simon-pegg-defends-gay-sulu-after-george-takei-criticism

Pegg and Lin probably wanted their franchise to beat Star Wars in the progressive sweepstakes

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the late Anton Yelchin on Dostoevsky, Tarkovsky, and Rachmaninov

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/jul/06/anton-yelchin-interview-green-room-cannes

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