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Should minstrel music be banned?

Post  pinhedz on Tue May 15, 2012 1:28 pm

Folklorists studying the songs of the 19th-century minstrel shows face a bit of a dilemma:

-- on the one hand, the minstrel shows depicted the black man as living in poverty, but nonetheless happy-go-lucky because he could sing and dance and steal water melons;

-- on the other hand, the minstrel songs played a critical role in the development of American music, and it must be acknowledged if black America is to receive due credit for it.

Aaron Copeland adopted one minstrel song into an art song--but he had to change the words:



Ching-a-ring-a ring ching ching, 

Ho a ding-a-ding kum larkee, 

Ching-a-ring-a ring ching ching, 

Ho a ding kum larkee. 


Brothers gather round, 

Listen to this story, 

'Bout the promised land, 

An' the promised glory.

You don't need to fear, 

If you have no money, 

You don't need none there, 

To buy you milk and honey. 


There you'll ride in style, 

Coach with four white horses, 

There the evenin' meal, 

Has one two three four courses.

Nights we all will dance 

To the harp and fiddle, 

Waltz and jig and prance, 

"Cast off down the middle!" 


When the mornin' come, 

All in grand and splendour, 

Stand out in the sun, 

And hear the holy thunder! 


Brothers hear me out, 

The promised land's a-comin' 

Dance and sing and shout, 

I hear them harps a strummin'. 


Ching-a-ring-a ching 

ching ching, ching a ring ching 

Ching-a-ring-a ching ching, 

ching-a-ring-a ching ching, 

ching-a-ring-a, 

ching-a-ring-a, 

ching-a-ring-a, 

ring, ching ching ching CHAW!

The revised words are all about the promised land--but in the original lyrics, the "promised land" was Haiti! No

"Ching a Ring Chaw" (1833)
(aka "Sambo's Address to His Bred'ren")
Words and Music: anonymous

1.
Broder let us leabe, Buera lan for Hettee,
Dar you be receibe Gran as La Fayette;
Make a mity show, wen we lan from steamship
I be like Munro, You like Louis Philip,

[REFRAIN]
Chinger ringer, ring ching, ching
Ho ah, dingah ding kum darkee,
Chinger ringer, ring ching chaw,
Ho ah ding kum darkey.

2.
Oh dat equal sod, hoo no want to go_e
Dare we feel no rod, dar we hab no fo_e
Dar we lib so fine wid our coach and hors_e,
An ebery time we dine, hab one, two, three, four, corsee_e.

(REFRAIN)

3.
No more carry bed, no more oister opee,
No more dig de sod, no more krab de slop_e,
But hab whiskers gran, an promenade de stove_e,
Wid beauties od be lan, were we in full dress meet_e.

(REFRAIN)

4.
No more carry bag an wid a nail and tick_e,
Nasty dirty rag, wit gutte pick_e,
No more barrow wheel all about de street_e,
No more baige to tred, den by massa beat_e.

(REFRAIN)

5.
No more white man stare, wen he stand in mob_e,
And felte our lubly fair, which make em sigh and sob_e
Dar our wibes be gran, and in dimons shin_e.
While ebery kullered man, hab much he drink ob wine_e.

(REFRAIN)

6.
Dar we make de best sugar, fetch from Havanna,
While our dorters fair, play on de piano,
No more cry bad corn, or pepper pot all hot_e,
But work de lubly korn, and res in sturdy grad_e.

(REFRAIN)

7.
No more our sons cry weep, no more he be the back_e
No more our dorters weep, kase dey all call em black_e,
Mo more dey wan to be, no more wash and cook_e.
But ebery day we see em read de novel book_e.

(REFRAIN)

8.
No more wid black and handkerchief bond and shoe to shin_e,
But hab all tidings flash, and all ob 'em sublim_e,
No more dance for eel, am all dat kind of fish_e,
No more cat corn meal, but hab de best ob dish_e,

(REFRAIN)

9.
Dar we hab parties big, dar dance an play de fiddle,
Der waltz an hab de jig, cast off an down de middle,
Den in gran saloon, we take the blushin damsel,
Where eyes shine like de moon, an ebery mood de cram full,

(REFRAIN)

10.
Dar dance at nite de jig, what what man call cotillion
In hall so mity big it hole haff a million;
Den take our partners out, den forward two mallock_e
De cross an turn about, an den go home in hack_e.

(REFRAIN)

11.
Dar too we are sure to make our dorters de fine lad_e,
And wen de husbans take, dey love de common grad_e
An den perhaps our son, he rise in glorious splender,
An be like Washington, be contry's defender.

(REFRAIN)

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Re: Should minstrel music be banned?

Post  pinhedz on Tue May 15, 2012 1:34 pm

I believe that these must be the first black musicians to play minstrel music in the last 100 years:


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Re: Should minstrel music be banned?

Post  pinhedz on Tue May 15, 2012 1:40 pm

But they mostly play instrumentals when it's minstrel music:


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Post  pinhedz on Tue May 15, 2012 1:43 pm

Svetlana says that "Ching-a Ring-a Ring Chaw" is "the perfect song for balalaikas."

But we have a black lady doctor in the orchestra that cringes every time we practice it.

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Post  pinhedz on Tue May 15, 2012 2:25 pm

Come to think of it, there's one minstrel song that lots of black folks have sung in the last 65 years:


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Re: Should minstrel music be banned?

Post  pinhedz on Sun May 27, 2012 1:52 pm

Minstrel-music haters take note

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Re: Should minstrel music be banned?

Post  pinhedz on Fri Jul 06, 2012 2:37 pm

They're still at it. Shocked


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Post  pinhedz on Sun Aug 12, 2012 11:31 pm

Topsy was a character in the book "Uncle Tom's Cabin," who was always getting into trouble, so they wrote a song about her the minstrel shows:

GOLLY, AIN'T I WICKED?

Oh! white folks, I was neber born.
Aunt Sue raise me on de corn,
Send me errands night and morn;
Ching a-ring, a-ring a-ricked.

She used to knock me on de floor,
Den bang my head agin de door,
And pull my har out by de core;
Oh! golly, ain't I wicked?

Oh! eat de cake and hoe de corn,
I'se de gal dat neber was born-
Spect I grow'd up some dark morn;
Oh! golly, ain't I wicked?

Oh! Massa Clair he bring me here,
Put me in Miss Feely's care­
Don't I make dat lady stare?
Ching a-ring, a-ring a-ricked.

She has me taken, clothed and fed,
Den sends me up to make de bed,
I put de foot into de head;
Oh! golly, ain't I wicked?

Oh! eat de cake and hoe de corn,
I'se de gal dat neber was born-
Spect I grow'd up some dark morn;
Oh! golly, ain't I wicked?

And den dar's one will come and say,
Be good, Topsy, learn to pray!
And raise her beau'ful hands dat way;
Ching a-ring, a-ring a-ricked.

'Tis little Miss Eva, kind and fair,
Says, if I'se good I will go dar,
But den I tells 'em, I don't car;
Oh! golly, ain't I wicked?

I'se black Topsy, as you see,
None of your half-and-half for me;
Black or white, 'tis best to be-
Oh! ain't I awful wicked?

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Post  pinhedz on Sun Aug 12, 2012 11:40 pm

This song is on my record, although I'm not sure it's strictly minstrel:




What record, you ask?

This here record:


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