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Post  eddie on Thu Apr 14, 2011 4:05 pm

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Re: Walter Sickert

Post  eddie on Sat Jun 11, 2011 4:15 pm

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No, not the Jack the Ripper suspect of Patricia Cornwell's lurid fantasies, but the painter of claustrophobic domestic interiors in Camden Town and of the English music-hall in all its eerie lime-lit strangeness.

Cornwell makes much of Sickert's practice of beginning a canvas by tying a red handkerchief around his neck.

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Post  eddie on Sat Jun 11, 2011 4:17 pm


Three paintings in the Camden Town Nudes series which got Patricia Cornwell so hot under the collar.


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Post  eddie on Sat Jun 11, 2011 4:19 pm


Bathers, Dieppe, 1902.

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Post  eddie on Sat Jun 11, 2011 4:20 pm


Noctes Ambosianae: a view of the audience in the gallery of the Middlesex Music Hall.


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Re: Walter Sickert

Post  eddie on Sat Jun 11, 2011 4:22 pm


Ennui: one of Sickert's claustrophobic domestic interiors. A couple with nothing to say to one another.


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Re: Walter Sickert

Post  eddie on Sat Jun 11, 2011 4:23 pm

PATRICIA CORNWELL's CASE FOR WALTER SICKERT BEING JACK THE RIPPER (Wiki):

Cornwell contends Sickert had the psychological profile of a killer. She asserts that many of his paintings and sketches follow a violently misogynistic theme. Cornwell's belief is that Sickert was unable to have intercourse because of botched surgery to correct a fistula on his penis. However Cornwell provides little evidence for either the fistula or the surgery.

The killings coincide with the marriage of Sickert's close friend and mentor, the famous painter James Abbott McNeill Whistler, who later distanced himself from Sickert, even suing Sickert later in life. Cornwell claims this marriage and the end of the friendship provided the spark which exacerbated his awareness of his disabilities and ignited a latent anger against the opposite sex.

Departing from common belief among experts that most of the Ripper's letters were hoaxes, Cornwell believes that the letters contain specific information related to crimes, and as such are unlikely to be from anyone other than the Ripper. However, Cornwell's book does not discuss exactly which details of the Ripper's murders were made known to the general public at the time. Cornwell cites Sickert's artistic genius as useful for crafting the Ripper's letters by disguising handwriting and varying sketching styles. She also points to Sickert's paintings and sketches, some of which show women in prostrate poses that Cornwell claims are similar to victims at their crime scenes.

Cornwell also had a stamp licked by the writer of one of the supposed Ripper letters analysed for DNA, and claimed it pointed to Sickert. However the analysis could only be of Mitochondrial DNA, and, while it can be of use in some cases, the entire human race only shows several dozen mutations. Sickert was at best "not excluded" by the analysis, but his typically-European result would be similar to that of several million Britons alive in 1890.

In recent speeches, Cornwell says that new evidence has come to light since her book.[citation needed] She states that a paper manufacture expert she hired asserts that reams of paper supposedly used by Jack the Ripper to write several letters to Scotland Yard and paper purchased by Sickert's mother bear the same small-press watermark. She also claims that there are matches in the cutter's marks, which are a result of the rough cutting of each quire (or small package) for packaging. A 'quire' was usually of 24 sheets.


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Re: Walter Sickert

Post  eddie on Sat Jun 11, 2011 4:25 pm

THE RIPPEROLOGISTS RESPOND (Wiki):

Though Cornwell's book sold many copies, many Ripperologists and other critics argued that Cornwell's theory was far from persuasive.

Critics point out that most, if not all, of the Ripper letters are considered hoaxes by all other authorities, so trying to prove that Sickert wrote one or more of them doesn't prove that he killed anyone.

The evidence she claims supports the idea that Sickert had a disfigured penis also supports the more accepted theory that he had a fistula in his anus.

Details in the letters and supposedly seen in the paintings she claims only the killer would know had previously been published in newspapers and a book released in France. Sickert could have easily got hold of the book in question, as he also lived in France off and on. In fact, evidence shows that he was probably in France on the nights of four of the five Ripper murders.

Critics also note that Cornwell admits that she did not have a theory about the murders until about a year before her book came out and is convinced that the first name mentioned to her as a possible suspect must be the one who really did it. They note that, unlike authors of popular crime fiction, criminal investigators generally don't get to pick the person whodunnit before they do the research.

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Post  eddie on Sat Jun 11, 2011 4:29 pm

MORE RIPPERBALLS FROM PATRICIA CORNWELL (from The Guardian):

Does this painting by Walter Sickert reveal the identity of Jack the Ripper?

Author rips up canvas in attempt to prove artist was killer

Fiachra Gibbons, arts correspondent

The Guardian, Saturday 8 December 2001 12.06 GMT



The American crime novelist Patricia Cornwell was last night accused of "monstrous stupidity" for ripping up a canvas to prove that the Victorian painter Walter Sickert was Jack the Ripper.

Even in the context of the crackpot conspiracy theories, elaborate frauds and career-destroying obsessions that London's most grisly whodunnit has spawned, Cornwell's investigation is extreme. Not only did she have one canvas cut up in the vain hope of finding a clue to link Sickert to the murder and mutilation of five prostitutes, she spent £2m buying up 31 more of his paintings, some of his letters and even his writing desk.

Like so many before her, Cornwell, 45, a former mortuary assistant who amassed a £100m fortune from her Kay Scarpetta novels, is staking her reputation on her sleuthing and her reading of one of the artist's most dark and teasing paintings, The Camden Town Murder, in which a naked woman is shown trying to ward off a glowering, fully clothed man.

Nevertheless, that has not stopped her declaring she is "100% certain" that she has cracked a case that has driven so many to distraction. "If someone proves me wrong, not only will I look horrible about it, I will lose my reputation," she admitted.

Sickert, regarded by some as the greatest British painter between Turner and Bacon, has been linked to the murders before, but usually as an unwilling accomplice in a masonic conspiracy to cover up for the Duke of Clarence, Queen Victoria's dissolute grandson, whose passion for whoring in the East End left him with syphilis of the brain. The artist's name came into the frame when a man calling himself Joseph Sickert, and claiming the childless Sickert was his father, said the painter had confessed his part in the plot shortly before his death in 1942.

Cornwell is more direct, however, claiming that Sickert - who made no secret of his fascination with the killings - was Jack himself. "I do believe 100% that Walter Richard Sickert committed those serial crimes, that he is the Whitechapel murderer," she told a US TV show.

More sensationally still, Cornwell, who paid for a battery of forensic tests, is convinced that a defect in Sickert's penis, coupled with his failure to procreate from any of his three marriages and numerous affairs, turned him into a serial killer. Nor, she claims, were Polly Nichols, Annie Chapman, Elizabeth Stride, Catherine Eddowes and Mary Kelly - all slain between August 31 and November 8 1888 - the only women he killed.

Cornwell's suspicions were sharpened by a series of pictures Sickert painted in 1908, prompted by the murder of a Camden prostitute, which Cornwell claims have an eerie similarity to the autopsy pictures taken of the Ripper's victims. "This painter never painted anything he had not seen," said Cornwell. "This man was a very smart man. If you have these murders going on then you started painting pictures of disembowelled women on the streets, somebody is going to say, 'Let's go take a look at this guy.'"

In one painting of a woman with a pearl necklace, Cornwell said the pose was identical to that of Kelly's when as she was found by police, the only one of the women to be murdered in her bed. Another showed a woman's face mutilated by paint in a way similar to Eddowes's wounds.

But Cornwell's claims - which are to form the basis of her next book - were met with derision yesterday by Sickert experts and biographers outraged that one of his paintings had been sacrificed "to add credence to this silly theory". Their only consolation was that Cornwell appears to have paid well above the market rate for her collection.

Even so, one of the London dealers who sold her two Sickerts this year said Cornwell had "gone beyond the pale". Andrew Patrick, of the Fine Arts Society, who refused to say which paintings she had bought from him, said: "If as is claimed a painting was cut up, that is very wrong. Everyone knows this stuff about Sickert is nonsense. He loved these dramatic titles, and to play with the idea of menace."

Richard Shone, who curated the last big Sickert show at the Royal Academy in London in 1992, said: "I can't believe she has done this, it's such a red herring. It all sounds monstrously stupid to me. Is she so obsessed that she doesn't mind the destruction of a painting by such a very fine artist to add credence to this silly theory? If even Sickert were Jack the Ripper it would not justify this. It's like taking a Caravaggio apart to investigate the stabbing he was involved in. It's mad."

He added: "Sickert was interested in the music hall, the theatrical and low life, and he played around with these themes like Degas, his mentor. He always painted from photographs, and was one of the first artists to do so."

Although Cornwell failed to find any DNA on letters held by Scotland Yard, written by a man purporting to be the Ripper, to compare with samples taken from Sickert's desk and canvasses, she claimed to have made one breakthrough. One letter had the same unusual watermark as Sickert's writing paper, provided by his stationer father.

"If a jury then had seen that," she said, "they would have said 'hang him'."

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Re: Walter Sickert

Post  eddie on Sat Jun 11, 2011 4:30 pm

John McLaughlin wrote:

Remind me to stay clear of her novels. That's one sick mind there.

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Post  eddie on Sat Jun 11, 2011 4:31 pm

Eddie wrote:

John McLaughlin wrote:
Remind me to stay clear of her novels.


The early Scarpetta novels were pretty good but there's been a dramatic dip in standard in recent years. Cornwell is too much of a man-hater to be interesting in the long term.


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Post  eddie on Sat Jun 11, 2011 4:33 pm

Nash wrote:

Eddie wrote:


Bathers, Dieppe, 1902.


I like this painting.

No doubt Sickert was a wierdo, however, I would say he was not Jack the Ripper.

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Post  eddie on Sat Jun 11, 2011 4:34 pm

Hosni wrote:

See, what happened was, Prince Eddy was hanging out with Sickert, going whoring and stuff. Then this whore decides to black-mail Queen Victoria about Prince Eddy's whoring, so the Queen hires Dr. Gull to kill the whore and her friends. So Dr. Gull decides to kill multiple birds with one stone so to speak, because he also thought it was a good idea to use the killings to transmit important messages about Freemasonry and about the need to keep female irrationality at bay. So he hires a carriage driver to help him kill the birds and then he gives the carriage driver a architectural tour of London to help prepare him for the killings. This whole scene greatly upsets The Elephant Man and causes some annoyance to Buffalo Bill.

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Post  eddie on Sat Jun 11, 2011 4:36 pm

Eddie wrote:

Hosni wrote:

See, what happened was, Prince Eddy was hanging out with Sickert, going whoring and stuff. Then this whore decides to black-mail Queen Victoria about Prince Eddy's whoring, so the Queen hires Dr. Gull to kill the whore and her friends. So Dr. Gull decides to kill multiple birds with one stone so to speak, because he also thought it was a good idea to use the killings to transmit important messages about Freemasonry and about the need to keep female irrationality at bay. So he hires a carriage driver to help him kill the birds and then he gives the carriage driver a architectural tour of London to help prepare him for the killings. This whole scene greatly upsets The Elephant Man and causes some annoyance to Buffalo Bill.


Expert summary of Alun Moore and Eddie Campbell's graphic novel FROM HELL, on which the Johnny Depp movie of the same name is very loosely based. (The movie dispenses with most of the Iain Sinclair-derived psychogeographical stuff.)

Walter Sickert puts in a cameo appearance in the very well-researched Moore/Campbell study of urban mythologising.

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