Re: poetry thread

[pinhedz]

Is she a witch?

Indubitably.

Does ATU-II have a witch thread?

If not, it will.

[Guest]

Remember the I Ching reading you did for me, Moony? The Marriage hexagram? We were puzzling over whether this referred to book or babe. Turns out it was both.

...you are going to MARRY her?????

[Guest]

that's the question I didn't dare to ask

[Guest]

[eddie]

Ha! Beat you to the draw. That illustration's already in the book: Dante's first sight of Beatrice working on the gateline at Liverpool Street station. But great anticipation there, Moony.

Marriage? Dunno about that. If it comes to anything of the sort, I'd imagine that a wood and a druid would probably come into it at some point.

[pinhedz]

We have just learned that Svetlana's son has set a poem by Pablo Neruda to music, and that we will be performing it with the Metropolitan Chorus in April.

EL FUTURO ES ESPACIO

EL futuro es espacio,
espacio color de tierra,
color de nube,
color de agua, de aire,
espacio negro para muchos sueños,
espacio blanco para toda la nieve,
para toda la música.

Atrás quedó el amor desesperado
que no tenía sitio para un beso,
hay lugar para todos en el bosque,
en la calle, en la casa,
hay sitio subterráneo y submarino,
qué placer es hallar por fin,
subiendo
un planeta vacío,
grandes estrellas claras como el vodka
tan transparentes y deshabitadas,
y allí llegar con el primer teléfono
para que hablen más tarde tantos hombres
de sus enfermedades.

Lo importante es apenas divisarse,
gritar desde una dura cordillera
y ver en la otra punta
los pies de una mujer recién llegada.

Adelante, salgamos
del río sofocante
en que con otros peces navegamos
desde el alba a la noche migratoria
y ahora en este espacio descubierto
volemos a la pura soledad.

[Guest]

Remember the I Ching reading you did for me, Moony? The Marriage hexagram? We were puzzling over whether this referred to book or babe. Turns out it was both.

...took me ages to locate the hexagram and appropriate line.

...a snow white steed
progress delayed by a betrothal
unwarranted suspicion

Makes no sense to me

[Guest]

Dante's first sight of Beatrice

...the musician ex-partner sent it as a postcard from Firenze, a long time ago. I still have it.

[Guest]

Marriage? Dunno about that. If it comes to anything of the sort, I'd imagine that a wood and a druid would probably come into it at some point.

Pagan weddings, in many cases performed by a recognized druid, will now be allowed in Ireland.

Following a five-year campaign the Irish state has now recognized the right of the Pagan Federation Ireland to perform weddings.

Couples will now be able to be legally married after a ceremony that concludes with jumping over a broomstick to mark crossing over from an old life to a new one.

Pagan weddings are also known as hand-fasting and most recently, the nephew of Richard Branson got married that way and they have become increasingly popular. http://www.irishcentral.com/news/Pagan-weddings-now-allowed-in-Ireland-84903247.html

[eddie]

...took me ages to locate the hexagram and appropriate line.

...a snow white steed
progress delayed by a betrothal
unwarranted suspicion

Can you remember in which line the 6 or 9 appeared?

[Guest]

Line 6 for the FOURTH place

Six in the fourth place means:
Grace or simplicity?
A white horse comes as if on wings.
He is not a robber,
He will woo at the right time.

An individual is in a situation in which doubts arise as to which is better-to
pursue the grace of external brilliance, or to return to simplicity. The doubt
itself implies the answer. Confirmation comes from the outside; it comes like
a white winged horse. The white color indicates simplicity. At first it may be
disappointing to renounce the comforts that might have been obtained, yet
one finds peace of mind in a true relationship with the friend who courts
him. The winged horse is the symbol of the thoughts that transcend all limits
of space and time.

...hmmm...pegasus:

"The symbolism of Pegasus varies with time. Symbol of wisdom and especially of fame from the Middle Ages until the Renaissance, he became one symbol of the poetry and the creator of sources in which the poets come to draw inspiration, particularly in the 19th century. Pegasus is the subject of a very rich iconography, especially through the ancient Greek pottery and paintings and sculptures of the Renaissance. Personification of the water, solar myth, or shaman mount, Carl Jung and his followers have seen in Pegasus a profound symbolic esoteric in relation to the spiritual energy that allows to access to the realm of the gods on Mount Olympus."

[eddie]

^

I am very much obliged to you for that, Moony.

You understand that the treacherous young witch will always take second place in my affections.

[Guest]

^

I am very much obliged to you for that, Moony.

You understand that the treacherous young witch will always take second place in my affections.

...age and stealth will always defeat youth and inexperience

[eddie]

Dante's first sight of Beatrice

...the musician ex-partner sent it as a postcard from Firenze, a long time ago. I still have it.

In the book, the painting gets an Elvis Costello caption:

When we first met I didn't know what to do
My old love lines were all worn out on you
And the world walked round my mouth
(Jack of All Parades- EC.)

[Guest]

Dante's first sight of Beatrice working on the gateline at Liverpool Street station.

In the book, the painting gets an Elvis Costello caption:



When we first met I didn't know what to do
My old love lines were all worn out on you
And the world walked round my mouth
(Jack of All Parades- EC.)

I've reached the Paradiso section of my contemporary Divine Comedy...been writing some more poems about my personal Beatrice...going to use this as as an epigraph for this section:

She lit a burner on the stove and offered me a pipe
"I thought you'd never say hello" she said
"You look like the silent type"
Then she opened up a book of poems
And handed it to me
Written by an Italian poet
From the thirteenth century
And every one of them words rang true
And glowed like burning coal
Pouring off of every page
Like it was written in my soul from me to you
Tangled up in blue
(Bob Dylan)

Don't know that it really matters but Bob gets the century wrong: Dante lived in 14th c. Tuscany.

I'm looking forward to the book....