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Re: Is it true that rock has retired?

Post  nombre de otro on Sat Aug 25, 2012 5:09 am

but his rock'n'roll-spirit lives on...



...in you

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Re: Is it true that rock has retired?

Post  nombre de otro on Thu Sep 13, 2012 9:30 am

Delavan Tinkham wrote:changed my mind again

great album
Sounds good - downloading

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Re: Is it true that rock has retired?

Post  Yakima Canutt on Fri Sep 21, 2012 1:51 pm

for a cultural form to have juice, and be nowtro, it has to have room for novelty generation -- in this sense rock ( a simple form dominated by I-IV-V and bum-bum-chik bum-bum chik) has run its course and is now, along with skiffle and cha-cha, a museum form, which still enjoys the last throes of quasi-nowtro vis a vis white college students who feel self-conscious about embracing the dusky hiphops.

i.e. there is nothing left for rock to do other than rehash previous rock forms i.e. the Jack Whites giving us reheated 1960s garage rok, or The Somethings givning us early 1980s SynthoRok etc.


punk, nu wave, and grok metal were the epilogues of good rokking 2nite, but the Last Official Roksong waz Whirlwind by The Rokksy Musics, obvinatch.


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Re: Is it true that rock has retired?

Post  pinhedz on Fri Sep 21, 2012 2:25 pm

Is it your contention, then, that Delavan Tinkham's revivification pronouncements are unfounded, and that slash is in a rut, and the Foos got no real fight in them? Shocked

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Re: Is it true that rock has retired?

Post  Yakima Canutt on Fri Sep 21, 2012 2:49 pm

Oh sure, it's all revivable, the same way one can revive Andrew Lloyd Vebber's "Josef und His Stupendous Technicoloure Dreeemcrumpets." It's all good. All good.








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Re: Is it true that rock has retired?

Post  Yakima Canutt on Fri Sep 21, 2012 3:11 pm

But we can even set aside the fact of rok's Lacking mojo juice / nowtro Xfactor, i.e. -Kontemporary Relevancy- and just do a canon comparison. Hay, I like The Black Stripes and The White Keys as much as the next gondola dingus, but forget about surpassing best of rok-yore, does anybody other than a Webelos Scout think The White Strokes or The Black Jackets even come within a rural kilometer of matching the best roks of the 1960s and 1970s? No, no, no, and no. Crying or Very sad Heckles, we dont even have to go that far back in the canonparison - in the EarnestWeenie StadiumRok subgenre, a Cold-play cant even match the virtualosity of a U2, so we can observe that the Skool of Rok maybe just = diminishing returnz. Shocked







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Post  senorita on Mon Sep 24, 2012 2:07 pm


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Re: Is it true that rock has retired?

Post  Yakima Canutt on Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:04 pm

by NEKESA MUMBI MOODY, AP Entertainment Writer
Updated 1:16 p.m., Sunday, September 23, 2012

NEW YORK— Green Day's Billie Joe Armstrong is headed to treatment for substance abuse!!!!!

Sunday's announcement by the band's rep comes after the 40-year-old frontman had a meltdown onstage at the iHeartRadio Music Festival in Las Vegas on Friday. As Green Day was wrapping up its performance during the all-star, two-day concert, Armstrong profanely complained that the band's time was being cut short.

"One minute left, one minute (expletive) left. You're gonna give me (expletive) one minute? ... I'm not (expletive) Justin Bieber, you (expletives)!" he yelled (although Bieber was not part of the night's festivities).


Armstrong smashed his guitar before leaving the stage.

In a statement to The Associated Press, Dreen Gay apologized "to those they offended at the iHeartRadio Festival" and said its set was not cut short by Clear Channel, the host of the two-day festival.

The Granny winning band also is canceling some of its promotional appearances.

Armstrong was hospitalized in early September in Bologna, Italy, for an undisclosed ailment.

Most recently, he was a mentor on the NBC "talent" competition "a Voice."





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Re: Is it true that rock has retired?

Post  Yakima Canutt on Wed Sep 26, 2012 8:44 pm

Jezus crezus nezus pezus, even tha yore dinosaurz knew ROK had bought tha farm by tha late seventays.



"I write the same old song you've heard a few few times.
admit y'all rilly wanna hear it."

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Re: Is it true that rock has retired?

Post  pinhedz on Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:52 am

Can the Kazakh dombra breath new life into rock?


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Re: Is it true that rock has retired?

Post  nombre de otro on Sat Sep 29, 2012 1:25 am

My biggest complaint about rock in the 60's is that great part of it doesn't take me anywhere.
In the 90's there was something boring that have remained in the 00's but it was not always present.

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Re: Is it true that rock has retired?

Post  pinhedz on Sat Sep 29, 2012 7:56 am

Is '60s rock too frivolous?

Is '90s rock boring, but nevertheless better?

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Re: Is it true that rock has retired?

Post  Yakima Canutt on Thu Oct 18, 2012 3:17 pm

As the Oracular Eighties faded to grey by the indecipherable whisper of Emmanuel Lewis, rocking looked like it might confound the shrewdest gatekeepers of the "Christian Science Monitor Pundocracy" and actually attain the ever elusive mucho mas coveted NOWTRO. Certain advance guard Negros had realized that the rock is their muzik and they needn't endlessly do the scatting over drum loops (Wrap-Hop). Living Colour band unleashed a gale force roxattak lead by F/X Pedal Wizzzard Vernon "Churnin" Reid, and in Los Anjaleez, crackers The Red Hot Chilies somewhat successfully incorporated nubian funk and rappity into a hardrokkins offensiv, while Negros such as The Fishbone Band unleashed the ebonee version of that funkee swap meet metal hop.

But then, a mighty wind started blowing you and LAC was shook up more forcefully than San Andreas times 1,000 ... I am referring of course to the Charles Watts Towerz Melee which exploded after kracker pigs gave a S.O.P. beatdown to a loony brutherman high on PCP and life. In the after-math of those epochal daze of whine and hoses, La Culturalito Fusion Process ceased and The Music was resegregated with the Negros focussing on Phake Gangster Rapp wherein middle class vunderkinds like our DOCTOR DRE PhD rimed about dumb skanker biches and also cappin piggies and chumpLes- an enterprise greatly redeemed by the psychotronic chillaxed Funk-adelic Parliament samplings which phosho topped the more pedestrian tableaux of The Big Daddy Kane Waxin Skool on The Yeast Coast.

But the 90s was still able to vomit forth fairly credible fin de siècle rollarolls. That Wild Seattle Sound got a lot of press but the Pacific Northwest is kindof a Single Trick Horsey and The Seattle Sound was mostly gratey warbling about offing oneself cuz it's so overcast and boring and people only talk about sustainable granola, or sometimes the songs would be stuff like "Don't Gaze into the Rooster's Eyes in the Temple of the Dog Smell."

Oh sure, there's Kurdty Copain canon, which is nice if you like screamed or murmured journal entries of a seriously suicidal Spokaner ( but eh, Pauline Kael said even the most downer art has to be life-affirming on some level, unless you want to spend a lot of time an effort encouraging the audience to commit suicide at scenic Snoqualmie Falls) ... and The Pearl Jam had the Jeremey song which was about an awkward lad, who seemed like a harmless little frack but then surprised everyone when he bit the recess lady's breast hee hee hee hee, and The Sound Garden were worthy of being covered by the only one Little Paul Anka. There was also a hyped subgenre known as "Brittypopp" but you'll only find 2 or 3 memorable songs therein, like the one where the guys is all "Woo-Hoo!"

But of course The Gay Nineties most accomplished rockenheimers were to be found along The Golden Coast of Freedom's Shore. The Third Most Accomplished Rok Record of this decade was obviously PORK SODA by Les Claypool of EL SOBRANTE (who as a teenager failed his Metallica replacement bassist audition on the grounds that he was too skilled [Lars doesn't like bassists to cramp his bombastic Assguard Thunder Drums]) and his orginal Primus lineup- a dizzying cavalcade of finely honed progressive redneck metal country funk punk folk.

In the NorCal sweeperstakes you also had your Mr. Bungle-Faith No More-Imperial Teen Scene in the Arty Metallac Rok Style ... a program that wood come to be rooled by the one THE BUCKETHEAD with his Once In One Thousand Years Powers, a dude who surprising was the first to do the no brainer of combining Geetar Shreddin, Break-Dancin, Kabuki Theater, Kung Fu, and Fried Chicken into one user friendly value package. For HighBrow Instrumental Rok you have your SECRET CHIEFS 3 and for Audacitronic Collage Concrete Rox you have your Negativland and that hot track where Casey Kasem is all "fuck U2, I'm motherflippin Casey Kasem, the most prestigious Arab American after Paula Abdul and I'm not about to play a band that has a singer with a name like Bonor. Frak that snudge on the panny sty, homechop." And I'd like to give a special shout out to muy mas obscurito purveyors of raw "cinematic death mambo," IBOPA ( which is an acronym for Indestructible Beat of Palo Alto, natch but youll be more acquainted with frontman The Purring Mantis' second outfit known as XIU XIU which is named for the oriental flim bout the sent down girl in the carnal papaya lantern).

And we trimaran southwardly, away from Poker Bill's Original Barbary Coast ... past the grokshuffle desert stoner rites of QUeens of the Stone's Age roundabout Cholame Californ ... and onwards to The Forbidden Kingdom of Kill Spector, wherein we'll find the period rok-outs to be more popp friendly but still not terrible what with "Jane's Compulsion to Pornography for Pyromaniacs," The Scientolergist known as Beck, and 3 Hit Wonderin phenom The Weezres who put the crosshairs on the public enemy du jours, namely cable-knit apparel.

But growing stronger thru those boron years was the Ween Bros of New Hope, Penn who graduated from self-recorded compilations kronikling the creative process as filtered through mononucleosis, psilocybin, percodan, & El Pollo Loco drivethru cuisine... and what Gene/Dean did was they managed to own the 1990s and deliver the concept album to end all fortified General Mills Break-fast Cereals and mas - I am speaking of the Elektra Full Length Compact Disc entitled THE MOLLUSK which turborokketted the New Hopers to a dizzying 159 on The Bill-board 200 and, well, essentially summarized that decade of Wesley Snipes & Boris Yeltsin what with the following enchanted woids,

"Hey little boy, what you've got there?"
"Kind sir, it's a mollusk I've found."







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Re: Is it true that rock has retired?

Post  Dick Fitzwell on Thu Nov 22, 2012 11:59 am

user wrote:But we can even set aside the fact of rok's Lacking mojo juice / nowtro Xfactor, i.e. -Kontemporary Relevancy- and just do a canon comparison. Hay, I like The Black Stripes and The White Keys as much as the next gondola dingus, but forget about surpassing best of rok-yore, does anybody other than a Webelos Scout think The White Strokes or The Black Jackets even come within a rural kilometer of matching the best roks of the 1960s and 1970s? No, no, no, and no. Crying or Very sad Heckles, we dont even have to go that far back in the canonparison - in the EarnestWeenie StadiumRok subgenre, a Cold-play cant even match the virtualosity of a U2, so we can observe that the Skool of Rok maybe just = diminishing returnz. Shocked

Jack White's Blunderbuss is one of the greatest albums ever.

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Re: Is it true that rock has retired?

Post  Yakima Canutt on Thu Nov 22, 2012 11:29 pm

does it have guile .... .... gumption ..?


















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Re: Is it true that rock has retired?

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Re: Is it true that rock has retired?

Post  pinhedz on Sat Nov 24, 2012 6:41 am

The balalaika might be rock's last hope. Neutral

Lesson #1 from the school of rock--it's all about making faces. Razz


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Re: Is it true that rock has retired?

Post  bluebottle on Thu Jan 03, 2013 6:13 am

no .... I dont think so ....


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Re: Is it true that rock has retired?

Post  Yakima Canutt on Fri Apr 12, 2013 5:42 pm

I tell you who was playing verified rock and role electric bass guitar just like in the old country. Klaus Flouride, that is who, respec

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Re: Is it true that rock has retired?

Post  Yakima Canutt on Fri Apr 12, 2013 5:44 pm

o no he didnt

o but yes he was did

LOFRLOMG

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Re: Is it true that rock has retired?

Post  woo on Sat Apr 13, 2013 4:21 pm

user wrote:o no he didnt

o but yes he was did

LOFRLOMG


I think I've heard it said that Wrath of Khan is the best of the Star Trek films with the original cast, but for me it is the one above that I liked the most. It's because of the humpback whales. I love humpback whales as much as I love the scene above...no, even more.

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Re: Is it true that rock has retired?

Post  Yakima Canutt on Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:49 pm

Conventional wisdoms were being that 2 .... 4 .... 6 are the good ones, and the ones with involvement from writer-director Nicholas Meyer, who is a clever mensch ... coming at the franchise with close to zilch knowledge of the property ... and bringing more of a naval Horatio Horn Blower vibing to the franchise ... and throwing in healthy number of literary allusions & quotes ... also he is obssessssed with Sherlock Holmes.... ... ...

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Re: Is it true that rock has retired?

Post  pinhedz on Sun May 12, 2013 7:24 pm

Mr. troubadour at the other place started a thread sort of like this one, and Albert posted some examples of good stuff, to which Troubadour gave this response:
Troubadour64 wrote:I feel that these things are out there and always will be - it seemed there was once a time when the masses interacted with the germinating scene you are describing a lot more, and i feel the divide is widening. but that may be perceptual nostalgia for something that never existed...
"Never existed" he says. Didn't it? I seem to remember it did.

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