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Post  Guest on Wed Jul 20, 2011 12:35 am


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Post  eddie on Thu Jul 21, 2011 11:07 pm



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Is this correct? If so, what's it about? Any good? I've never heard of it.

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Post  Guest on Fri Jul 22, 2011 12:36 am

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...I'm about to read it eddie. My daughter lent it to me. She said it won't make me cry as much as The Kite Runner.

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Post  eddie on Fri Jul 22, 2011 12:54 am




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Post  Guest on Fri Jul 22, 2011 1:06 am


...The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo...

"Lisbeth Salander is the the girl with the dragon tattoo...the heroine and central character...Larsson saw her as a modern-day Pippi Longstocking..."


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Post  eddie on Fri Jul 22, 2011 1:09 am

Moony, have you read Stieg Larsson Millennium Trilogy yet?

If you haven't, I promise you won't reget it.

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Post  Guest on Fri Jul 22, 2011 1:24 am

eddie wrote:Moony, have you read Stieg Larsson Millennium Trilogy yet?

If you haven't, I promise you won't reget it.

...I haven't...but the summaries I read while tracking the clues down are enticing.

"Lisbeth Salander is the the girl with the dragon tattoo – the heroine and central character in the stories – which has been described as a Scandinavian Silence of the Lambs. I find it similar in some ways to Smilla’s Sense of Snow (1992) by Peter Hoeg. Lisbeth and Smilla would make a formidable pair. Lisbeth is a genius computer hacker. Forshaw says Larsson saw her as a modern-day Pippi Longstocking (another Scandinavian punkish wild child) with multiple piercings and the ability to inflict horrific violence on men who brutalize women."

...I loved Miss Smilla's feeling for Snow, and the way Peter Hoeg writes (although you can never be sure how much credit belongs to the translator). A strange thing about Hoeg's stories is that I find the first half of each of them outstanding...I often have to stop reading and catch my breath...but then they seem to unravel, as though he's uncertain how to end them.

Thanks for the recommendation eddie. I'll order them tomorrow (they'll take a few weeks to get here). I'll let you know what I think when/as I read them. Very Happy



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Post  eddie on Fri Jul 22, 2011 1:29 am

Sadly, Larsson died at the age of just 50 before his material could be properly edited but the occasional longeur is a price worth paying for the staggering impact of the Trilogy taken as a whole.

Lisbeth Salander is a quite amazing creation.

Enjoy!

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Post  Guest on Sat Jul 23, 2011 10:40 pm

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Post  Guest on Sat Jul 23, 2011 11:48 pm


...would hazard a guess as 'The Fall of the Roman Empire'...except for the monkeys silent

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Post  eddie on Sun Jul 24, 2011 1:23 am

blue moon wrote:
...would hazard a guess as 'The Fall of the Roman Empire'...except for the monkeys silent

You're almost there.

They're not, sensu stricto, monkeys.

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Post  Guest on Sun Jul 24, 2011 10:01 am


..aha...Gibbon's Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire ?

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Post  eddie on Sun Jul 24, 2011 3:24 pm

blue moon wrote:
..aha...Gibbon's Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire ?

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Post  eddie on Sun Jul 24, 2011 3:26 pm

blue moon wrote:

Hemingway's A Farewell to Arms?

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Post  eddie on Sun Jul 24, 2011 3:28 pm


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Post  Guest on Sun Jul 24, 2011 3:41 pm

eddie wrote:Hemingway's A Farewell to Arms?
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Post  Guest on Sun Jul 24, 2011 3:43 pm


...John Fowles' "The Magus" ?

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Post  eddie on Sun Jul 24, 2011 3:52 pm

blue moon wrote:
...John Fowles' "The Magus" ?

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Note figure-of-eight motif above the Magus' head: the intersection point was interpreted by Jung as the point of "individuation", the stage of personality development (as I understand it) at which a person starts being him/herself.

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Post  Guest on Sun Jul 24, 2011 4:29 pm

...well that's interesting eddie, in light of all of the concealing masques that are donned in the novel...

I loved this book when I first read it at 17. Still under it's influence about 5 years later I went to London on a one-way ticket and worked in a laundromat for 5 months to save for a bus ticket to Greece. I was caught in a riot in Athens and fled to the first ferry out which was headed for Syros. I stayed there for 6 months.

...I identified with Urfe at the time, and thought life should hold more adventure than mine had.
I discovered Greek myths and legends through The Magus.

I reread that so-influential and motivational book 10 years later and couldn't for the life of me discover a trace of the magic it held on my first reading.

The Magician...on his table are a cup, a sword, a wand and a pentacle (the suits represented in the tarot). I think the idea is that his magic is in the manipulation of these phenomena.

Is it an ouroborus encircling his waist? That would tie-in with a secondary interpretation of the figure-of-eight motif as 'infinity' (both representing that which has no beginning and no ending).
Tarot interpretations are quite tricky because the illustrations vary between decks. Yours is the the 'Rider-Waite' Magician. jocolor


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Post  eddie on Sun Jul 24, 2011 4:44 pm

blue moon wrote:I reread that so-influential and motivational book 10 years later and couldn't for the life of me discover a trace of the magic it held on my first reading

My own experience precisely.

There are certain books one simply outgrows. I blush to recall it now but I was a huge admirer of The Lord of the Rings well into my 20's.

The shape of the Tarot's Major Arcana is that of a figure-of-eight, with The Fool representing the unformed personality.


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Post  Guest on Sun Jul 24, 2011 4:52 pm

eddie wrote:There are certain books one simply outgrows.
...I'm not sure 'outgrows' defines what happens eddie. I think there's a loss of innocence and belief involved as well.
eddie wrote:The shape of the Tarot's Major Arcana is that of a figure-of-eight, with The Fool representing the unformed personality.
...I'm familiar with much Tarot symbolism eddie but I'm not sure what you mean by 'The shape of the Tarot's Major Arcana is that of a figure-of-eight'. scratch

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Post  eddie on Sun Jul 24, 2011 5:13 pm

blue moon wrote:I'm not sure what you mean by 'The shape of the Tarot's Major Arcana is that of a figure-of-eight'. scratch

In Jung's view the Major Arcana represent our journey through life, starting and ending with The Fool. The journey is in the shape of a figure-of-eight with the point of intersection at the moment of individuation.

I think John Fowles quotes TS Eliot at one point in The Magus:

We shall not cease from exploration
And the end of all our exploring
Will be to arrive where we started
And know the place for the first time.

T.S. Eliot -- "Little Gidding" (the last of his Four Quartets)


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