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Post  eddie on Fri Oct 14, 2011 8:25 pm

Bob Dylan now favourite to take the Nobel prize for literature

Odds on Dylan running away with the Nobel prize for literature tomorrow tumble from 100/1 to 5/1


Bob Dylan: good with music; great with words. But the next Nobel prize for literature winner ... ? Photograph: Harry Scott/Redferns

Sizzling-hot Nobel update! We reported yesterday that a late surge in betting on this year's Nobel prize for literature had seen the odds on Bob Dylan tumbling from 100/1 to 10/1 over 24 hours, making him fourth-favourite to take the prize. Well, it didn't end there: Ladbrokes have just issued a press release saying that Dylan is now installed as the firm favourite, after 80% of bets taken in the last 12 hours were placed on the singer-songwriter. Odds on him are now 5/1, ahead of Adonis (6/1), Haruki Murakami (8/1) and Tomas Transtromer (10/1).

Alex Donohue of Ladbrokes said: "Everything now points to Dylan taking the prize. At first we had him down as a rank outsider but the committee have been known to spring a shock and punters the world over feel Dylan will be the beneficiary."

Can it really be? I still can't credit it, to be honest. I love Dylan as much as the next person whose father played him incessantly during the car journeys of their youth, but in a field that also includes Amos Oz (25/1), Les Murray (16/1) and Thomas Pynchon (20/1) can he truly be considered, as Alfred Nobel specified when he endowed the prize, "the person who ... produced in the field of literature the most outstanding work in an ideal direction"?

In a word, no. But - inexplicably! - I'm not on the Nobel committee this year, so who I am to say? We'll be blogging the announcement tomorrow - tune in to see whether or not I have to eat my words.
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Post  Nah Ville Sky Chick on Sat Oct 15, 2011 1:04 am

For literature??? Am I missing something confused

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Post  felix on Sat Oct 15, 2011 2:13 am

Erm ... little Tommy Transformer received the Nobel wotsit over a week ago geek

http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2011/oct/06/nobel-prize-literature-tomas-transtromer?newsfeed=true
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Post  Nah Ville Sky Chick on Sat Oct 15, 2011 2:40 am

felix wrote:Erm ... little Tommy Transformer received the Nobel wotsit over a week ago geek

http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2011/oct/06/nobel-prize-literature-tomas-transtromer?newsfeed=true

Ha, yes I heard that. I thought Eddie's post related to some other award for literature. Embarassed

Anyway, whoever nominated Bob needs a kick up the arse.

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Post  eddie on Sat Oct 15, 2011 2:56 am

felix wrote:Erm ... little Tommy Transformer received the Nobel wotsit over a week ago geek

http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2011/oct/06/nobel-prize-literature-tomas-transtromer?newsfeed=true

Oh dear, I've posted a week-old article. How embarrassing. Embarassed Embarassed
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Post  eddie on Sat Oct 15, 2011 2:58 am

Nah Ville Sky Chick wrote:whoever nominated Bob needs a kick up the arse.

I dunno though, he DID rhyme "reckless" with "necklace" in Isis. That was pretty impressive.
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Post  felix on Sat Oct 15, 2011 4:13 am

eddie wrote:
Nah Ville Sky Chick wrote:whoever nominated Bob needs a kick up the arse.

I dunno though, he DID rhyme "reckless" with "necklace" in Isis. That was pretty impressive.
"feckless" would've clinched it ...
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Post  pinhedz on Sat Oct 15, 2011 5:04 am

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Post  eddie on Sat Oct 15, 2011 5:14 am

Remind me what he rhymed with "Buenos Aries". Was it "January"? I think Claudette used to have it as her signature.
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Post  Nah Ville Sky Chick on Sat Oct 15, 2011 5:27 am

I always liked "That light I never knowed" to rhyme with road jocolor

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Post  Nah Ville Sky Chick on Sat Oct 15, 2011 5:32 am

eddie wrote:Remind me what he rhymed with "Buenos Aries". Was it "January"? I think Claudette used to have it as her signature.

Yes, from Groom's still waiting at the altar

"What can I say about Claudette? Ain't seen her since January"

"She could be respectably married or running a whorehouse in Buenos Aires"

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Post  eddie on Sat Oct 15, 2011 5:35 am

Nah Ville Sky Chick wrote:I always liked "That light I never knowed" to rhyme with road jocolor

Been singing this a lot recently. The "treacherous young witch" infatuation is not working out. I find:

When your rooster crows at the break of dawn
Look out your window and I'll be gone

...especially comforting, although strictly speaking it doesn't rhyme.


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Post  eddie on Sat Oct 15, 2011 5:37 am

"Juiced in it"/"Used to it" from Like a Rolling Stone must be up there with the best.
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Post  Nah Ville Sky Chick on Sun Oct 16, 2011 5:10 am

eddie wrote:
Nah Ville Sky Chick wrote:I always liked "That light I never knowed" to rhyme with road jocolor

Been singing this a lot recently. The "treacherous young witch" infatuation is not working out. I find:

When your rooster crows at the break of dawn
Look out your window and I'll be gone

...especially comforting, although strictly speaking it doesn't rhyme.

If you sing gone in an American accent i.e. gawn, it does. Cool

So what have you tried doing to persuade the young witch that you are a bit of a catch? I love you


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Post  eddie on Sun Oct 16, 2011 5:35 am

Nah Ville Sky Chick wrote:So what have you tried doing to persuade the young witch that you are a bit of a catch? I love you

Written her a poem.
Shown her my book.
Gave her a copy of "The Witches' Bible" (*)

(*) Do you think this might have been a mistake?
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Post  Nah Ville Sky Chick on Mon Oct 17, 2011 4:35 am

eddie wrote:
Nah Ville Sky Chick wrote:So what have you tried doing to persuade the young witch that you are a bit of a catch? I love you

Written her a poem.
Shown her my book.
Gave her a copy of "The Witches' Bible" (*)

(*) Do you think this might have been a mistake?

(*) Yes !!

Did you give her the poem that you posted here?

What did she think of your book?

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Post  eddie on Mon Oct 17, 2011 8:03 am

Nah Ville Sky Chick wrote:
eddie wrote:(*) Do you think this might have been a mistake?

(*) Yes !!

Did you give her the poem that you posted here?

What did she think of your book?

(*) Oh well, I must have a warped sense of humour.

Yes, I think she liked it.

She's only seen a copy of the book as an appealingly typed-and-illustrated physical object; she hasn't read it. (Hardly anyone has because it's not finished yet- getting there, though.) If it's ever published, I might suddenly become a windswept and interesting author, rather than a balding middle-aged railwayman.


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Post  Guest on Mon Oct 17, 2011 8:31 am

eddie wrote:If it's ever published, I might suddently become a windswept and interesting author, rather than a balding middle-aged railwayman.

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Post  Guest on Mon Oct 17, 2011 6:36 pm

eddie wrote:(*) Oh well, I must have a warped sense of humour.
If she doesn't like it she can give it to me... I'm no witch though Sad

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Post  pinhedz on Sat Apr 30, 2016 1:46 pm

The Nobel Prize in Literature 2011 was awarded to Tomas Tranströmer "because, through his condensed, translucent images, he gives us fresh access to reality."

But nobody ever said life was fair. bounce
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Post  pinhedz on Sat Oct 15, 2016 2:24 pm

Yasser Arafat won a Nobel Peace prize. Suspect
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“Leonard Cohen On Bob Dylan’s Nobel Prize: “It’s like pinning a medal on Mount Everest for being the highest mountain””
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Post  Yakima Canutt on Thu Dec 15, 2016 12:36 pm




Good evening, everyone. I extend my warmest greetings to the members of the Swedish Academy and to all of the other distinguished guests in attendance tonight.

I’m sorry I can’t be with you in person, but please know that I am most definitely with you in spirit and honored to be receiving such a prestigious prize. Being awarded the Nobel Prize for Literature is something I never could have imagined or seen coming. From an early age, I’ve been familiar with and reading and absorbing the works of those who were deemed worthy of such a distinction: Kipling, Shaw, Thomas Mann, Pearl Buck, Albert Camus, Hemingway. These giants of literature whose works are taught in the schoolroom, housed in libraries around the world, and spoken of in reverent tones have always made a deep impression. That I now join the names on such a list is truly beyond words.

I don’t know if these men and women ever thought of the Nobel honor for themselves, but I suppose that anyone writing a book, or a poem, or a play anywhere in the world might harbor that secret dream deep down inside. It’s probably buried so deep that they don’t even know it's there.

If someone had ever told me that I had the slightest chance of winning the Nobel Prize, I would have to think that I’d have about the same odds as standing on the moon. In fact, during the year I was born and for a few years after, there wasn’t anyone in the world who was considered good enough to win this Nobel Prize. So, I recognize that I am in very rare company, to say the least.

I was out on the road when I received this surprising news, and it took me more than a few minutes to properly process it. I began to think about William Shakespeare, the great literary figure. I would reckon he thought of himself as a dramatist. The thought that he was writing literature couldn't have entered his head. His words were written for the stage. Meant to be spoken not read. When he was writing Hamlet, I’m sure he was thinking about a lot of different things: “Who’re the right actors for these roles?” “How should this be staged?” “Do I really want to set this in Denmark?” His creative vision and ambitions were no doubt at the forefront of his mind, but there were also more mundane matters to consider and deal with. “Is the financing in place?” “Are there enough good seats for my patrons?” “Where am I going to get a human skull?” I would bet that the farthest thing from Shakespeare’s mind was the question “Is this literature?”

When I started writing songs as a teenager, and even as I started to achieve some renown for my abilities, my aspirations for these songs only went so far. I thought they could be heard in coffee houses or bars, maybe later in places like Carnegie Hall, the London Palladium. If I was really dreaming big, maybe I could imagine getting to make a record and then hearing my songs on the radio. That was really the big prize in my mind. Making records and hearing your songs on the radio meant that you were reaching a big audience and that you might get to keep doing what you had set out to do.

Well, I’ve been doing what I set out to do for a long time, now. I’ve made dozens of records and played thousands of concerts all around the world. But it’s my songs that are at the vital center of almost everything I do. They seemed to have found a place in the lives of many people throughout many different cultures and I’m grateful for that.

But there’s one thing I must say. As a performer I’ve played for 50,000 people and I’ve played for 50 people and I can tell you that it is harder to play for 50 people. 50,000 people have a singular persona, not so with 50. Each person has an individual, separate identity, a world unto themselves. They can perceive things more clearly. Your honesty and how it relates to the depth of your talent is tried. The fact that the Nobel committee is so small is not lost on me.

But, like Shakespeare, I too am often occupied with the pursuit of my creative endeavors and dealing with all aspects of life’s mundane matters. “Who are the best musicians for these songs?” “Am I recording in the right studio?” “Is this song in the right key?” Some things never change, even in 400 years.

Not once have I ever had the time to ask myself, “Are my songs literature?”

So, I do thank the Swedish Academy, both for taking the time to consider that very question, and, ultimately, for providing such a wonderful answer.

My best wishes to you all,

Bob
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