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Jazz in the 1970s

Post  pinhedz on Wed Apr 13, 2011 12:39 am

As a jazz antiquarian, this thread documents the early search for jazz after the 1960s:

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Post  pinhedz on Thu Apr 14, 2011 5:00 am

I was trying to find out if there was any jazz recorded in the 1970s,
and here's what I found:

1970: Gary Burton & Keith Jarret -- “Gary Burton and Keith Jarret”
1971: Weather Report -- “Weather Report”
1972: Ornette Coleman-- “Skies of America”
1973: Oscar Peterson, Niels-Henning Orsted Pederson, Joe Pass -- “The Trio”
1974: Mary Lou Williams -- “Zoning”
1974: The Modern Jazz Quartet -- “Blues on Bach”
1975: Ornette Coleman -- “Dancing on your Head”
1975: Pat Metheny -- “Bright Size Life”
1975: Weather Report -- “Tail Spinnin’”
1975: Wayne Shorter -- “Native Dancer”
1976: Ella Fitzgerald & Joe Pass -- “Again”
1976: Cecil Taylor -- “Air Above Mountains”
1976: Don Cherry -- “Brown Rice”
1977: Shakhti with John McLaughlin -- “Natural Elements”
1978: Ornette Coleman -- “In All Languages”
1979: Don Cherry, Dewey Redman, Charlie Haden, Ed Blackwell -- "Old and New Dreams"

I am now seriously considering talking the plunge into the 1980s affraid but before I do that, what else do y'all think I should still get from the 1970s?

TinyMontgomery wrote:

1970 Tribute to Jack Johnson (Miles Davis)
1971 Thembi (Pharoah Sanders)
1972 Return to Forever (Chick Corea)
1973 Space is the place (Sun Ra)
1974 Coincide (Dewey Redman)
1975 Man-Child (Herbie Hancock)
1976 Body Meta (Ornette Coleman)
1977 Heavy Weather (Weather Report)
1978 Lacrosse (John Zorn)
1979 Sweet Lovely (David Murray Trio)

Other great albums include:
- Head Hunters (Herbie Hancock, 1973)
- My Goal's Beyond (John McLaughlin, 1971)
- Weather Report (Weather Report, 1971)
- Silent Tongues (Cecil Taylor, 1974)

and of course Mingus' great 70s albums:
- Let my children hear music (1972)
- Changes One & Two (1974)

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Post  pinhedz on Thu Apr 14, 2011 5:02 am

Stan54 wrote:

During late 1970s and early 1980s, Herbie Hancock toured with his "V.S.O.P." quintet, which featured all the members of the 1960s Miles Davis quintet except Davis, who was replaced by trumpet giant Freddie Hubbard. There was constant speculation that one day Davis would reunite with his classic band, but he never did so. VSOP recorded several live albums in the late 1970s, including VSOP (1976), and VSOP: The Quintet (1977).

Those 2 double LPs are really, really, really good.

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Post  pinhedz on Thu Apr 14, 2011 5:05 am

TinyMontgomery wrote:

I suppose that you have listened to all of my suggestions by now Wink

Step aside for the best jazz album of the 70s:

Anthony Braxton's "The Montreux/Berlin Concerts" (1976)

Seriously, that's what it is!

PS: How did you like the other albums? If you give me some feedback I may be able to extend the recommendations according to your taste!

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Post  pinhedz on Thu Apr 14, 2011 5:06 am

There’s a risk of going off half-cocked with my reactions to what I'm listening to. What I found most immediately likable in the jazz from the 50s and 60s were the recordings that reminded me of what I liked from the 30s and 40s. Likewise, what’s easiest to like from the 70s is what I already liked in the 50s and 60s. So it goes without saying that I like Peterson/Pass/Pederson, Fitzgerald and Pass, the MJQ, and Mary Lou Williams.

I also like all of the recordings with Wayne Shorter. I go back to the 60s with him, too, but he changed a lot and I’ve gone along with the changes.

Of the new discoveries, I think Don Cherry (specifically, Old And New Dreams), is at the top of my 70’s list right now. This might be another case of my liking what I liked already, because I’m finding he reminds me of Jack Walrath (who is not well known to most people, but is well known to me). In this case, however, I heard the more recent recordings (Walraths’s) before I heard the earlier recordings (Cherry’s).

I'm also liking Carla Bley (although what I have of hers is mostly not from the 70s) and the collaborations with Dewey Redman and Charlie Haden. But there'll be more about that when I get to the 80s.

I have always had a difficult time with Ornette Coleman, and that is still the case.

But--back to what I said first--there’s a risk of going off half-cocked. Whenever I do the old desert-island-disc exercise, I never pack up the music I already like. That would be a recipe for stagnation instead of growth. If I had to make my desert island picks from my current 70’s jazz list, I’d probably start with Ornette Coleman and Cecil Taylor, and take advantage of having all that time to soak it up and digest it.

And there’s a lot I don’t have an opinion of, because I haven’t heard it yet. The really big name in this category is Herbie Hancock, who I know as a side man for Miles Davis, but, inexplicably, I have not yet heard him as a leader.


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Post  pinhedz on Thu Apr 14, 2011 5:07 am

You have not heard the stupendous Maiden Voyage, 1965 by Mr. Hancock?!? I'd be happy to upload some Hancock, if you're curious.

The Hancock trajectory is:

1960s: Hard Modal Bop
Early 1970s: Spacy Experimental Fusion
Mid to Late 1970s: Accessible Funky Jazz
1980s: Hip Hop Jazz

And there's a good deal of more traditional boppy material thrown in there too.

He played with Wayne Shorter a lot, did a duet album with him in the 1990s, 1+1


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Post  pinhedz on Thu Apr 14, 2011 5:08 am

Hozni wrote:You have not heard the stupendous Maiden Voyage, 1965 by Mr. Hancock?!? I'd be happy to upload some Hancock, if you're curious.

I blame Gunther Schuller. He kept saying his 3rd book would cover the bebop era, so I kept waiting (somebody must have custody of his notes, but nobody's talking about it).

I'm more than curious, I'm going to get all the Herbie's that have been recommended here. Thanks for the upload offer, but my connection is slower than snail mail, so I'm using the US Postal Service instead (at least until I get this iMac gizmo hooked up with a fast connection).

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Post  pinhedz on Thu Apr 14, 2011 5:09 am

Hozni wrote:

If Herbie's Funk Jazz doesn't do it for you, be sure to check out his Blue Note albums from the 1960s, my faves being Inventions and Dimensions, Empyrean Isles, Maiden Voyage, and The Prisoner.

Herbie then went from Bizarro Fusion to Funk Jazz after hearing his latest Fusion Experiment played at a party, and noticing that it killed the party. Another reason -"I like Sly and the Family Stone. I LOVE Sly and the Family Stone. So why don't I just try and do some kind of funk record?" His first funk excursion became the biggest selling jazz album ever. Needless to say, he didn't return to Modal Bop or Bizarro Fusion for a while, at least on studio albums.

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Post  pinhedz on Thu Apr 14, 2011 5:10 am

Stan54 wrote:
During late 1970s and early 1980s, Herbie Hancock toured with his "V.S.O.P." quintet, which featured all the members of the 1960s Miles Davis quintet except Davis, who was replaced by trumpet giant Freddie Hubbard. There was constant speculation that one day Davis would reunite with his classic band, but he never did so. VSOP recorded several live albums in the late 1970s, including VSOP (1976), and VSOP: The Quintet (1977).

Those 2 double LPs are really, really, really good.

"The Quintet" really is a great one. But it looks like the 1976 VSOP is going to be much harder to get.

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Post  pinhedz on Sun Apr 05, 2015 1:43 pm

OK, I now have all of the above (i just checked).

What's next?

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Post  Yakima Canutt on Mon Apr 06, 2015 7:57 am



o no it's not jazz, it mite be jazz funk, or even funk jazz, o no


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Post  Yakima Canutt on Mon Apr 06, 2015 7:59 am


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Post  Yakima Canutt on Mon Apr 06, 2015 8:03 am

no, some thing more trad!



ok fine, a coltrane tribute





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Post  Yakima Canutt on Mon Apr 06, 2015 8:06 am

we dont want to encourage the trumpeters but ok







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