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Post  pinhedz on Fri Aug 26, 2011 2:50 am

The newspaper just RIPed Jerry Leiber.

Did he do anything good?


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Post  felix on Fri Aug 26, 2011 4:53 am

Leiber schmeiber. Who he?

Your paper boy is tardy on his round (US: route) - this was reported several days ago. clown

In the worlds of rock 'n' roll and rhythm & blues, there's few names more important, fo sho.



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Post  pinhedz on Fri Aug 26, 2011 5:06 am

The song "Is That All There Is" [quoting Wiki here] was inspired by the 1896 story Disillusionment (Enttäuschung) by Thomas Mann. The narrator in Mann's story tells the same stories of when he was a child. A dramatic adaptation of Mann's story was recorded by Erik Bauserfeld and Bernard Mayes; it was broadcast on San Francisco radio station KPFA in 1964.[2]

One difference between the story and the song is that the narrator in Mann's story finally has a sensation to feel free when he sees the sea for the first time and laments for a sea without a horizon. Most of the words used in the song's chorus are taken verbatim from the narrator's words in Mann's story.

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Post  pinhedz on Fri Aug 26, 2011 5:09 am

Late-career hit for Miss Peggy:


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Post  woo on Fri Aug 26, 2011 5:35 am

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Post  pinhedz on Fri Aug 26, 2011 5:48 am

pinhedz wrote:Late-career hit for Miss Peggy ...
By Thomas Mann
Translated from the German by H.T. Lowe-Porter

"I remember, sir, with painful clearness the first disappointment of my life;
and I would beg you to observe that it had not at all to do with the miscarriage
of some cherished hope, but with an unfortunate occurrence. There was a fire at
night in my parents' house, when I was hardly more than a child. It had spread
insidiously until the whole small storey was in flames up to my chamber door,
and the stairs would soon have been on fire as well. I discovered it first, and
I remember that I went rushing through the house shouting over and over: 'Fire,
fire!' I know exactly what I said and what feeling underlay the words, though at
the time it could scarcely have come to the surface of my consciousness. 'So
this,' I thought, 'is a fire. This is what it is like to have the house on
fire. Is this all there is to it?'

"Goodness knows it was serious enough. The whole house burned down, the family
was only saved with difficulty, and I got some burns. And it would be wrong to
say that my fancy could have painted anything much worse than the actual burning
of my parents' house. Yet some vague, formless idea of an event even more
frightful must have existed somewhere within me, by comparison with which the
reality seemed flat. This fire was the first great event in my life. It left
me defrauded of my hope of fearfulness.
.
.
.
"You may believe that I do not speak with experience of life. Years ago I fell
in love with a girl, a charming, gentle creature, whom it would have been my joy
to protect and cherish. But she loved me not, which was not surprising, and she
married another. What other experience can be so painful as this? What
tortures are greater than the dry agonies of baffled lust? Many a night I lay
wide-eyed and wakeful; yet my greatest torture resided in the thought: 'So this
is the greatest pain we can suffer. Well, and what then -- is this all?'
.
.
.
"So I dream and wait for death. Ah, how well I know it already, death, that
last disappointment! At my last moment I shall be saying to myself: 'So this is
the great experience -- well, and what of it? What is it after all?'

"But it has grown cold here on the piazza, sir -- that I can still feel -- ha
ha! I have the honour to bid you a very good night."

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Post  felix on Fri Aug 26, 2011 10:12 am


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Post  felix on Fri Aug 26, 2011 9:22 pm

Wikipedia (and felix the researchinest cat) tells us:

The first commercial recording of a Leiber & Stoller song was Jimmy Witherspoon's 'Real Ugly Woman' in 1950, hear it here: http://www.we7.com/song/Leiber-Stoller--Jimmy-Witherspoon/Real-Ugly-Woman-04--51?m=0

You can hear the first Leiber & Stoller song to be a best seller here http://www.4shared.com/audio/hypx7pR2/Charles_Brown_-_Hard_Times.html. Recorded in 1951 and a Top Ten R&B hit in early '52.


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Post  felix on Fri Aug 26, 2011 9:29 pm

Chuck Jackson sings Leiber/Stoller in 1963:


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Post  Guest on Fri Aug 26, 2011 10:56 pm

pinhedz wrote:
pinhedz wrote:Late-career hit for Miss Peggy ...
By Thomas Mann
Translated from the German by H.T. Lowe-Porter

...this thread's a great read. I was unaware of Leiber but I heard Peggy sing that song ages ago. I was very young and didn't hear/remember the verses, but the chorus has always stayed with me...it comes as a surprise to hear the lyrics (and Mann's story).

...I always sang the chorus with gusto Shocked

study wiki also says:
One difference between the story and the song is that the narrator in Mann's story finally has a sensation to feel free when he sees the sea for the first time and laments for a sea without a horizon.

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Post  pinhedz on Sun Aug 28, 2011 12:22 pm

There's an interview (that I can't seem to find) in which Leiber and Stoller talk about how they never meant to write rock & roll, they thought they were writing rhythm and blues.

When they heard "Hound Dog" was a hit by Elvis Presley, they said "who?" because they'd written it for Big Mama Thornton.

Their opinion of Elvis's version? -- "Too fast."


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Post  pinhedz on Sun Aug 28, 2011 12:25 pm

They also talked about how they grew tired of writing songs "for kids."

But Leiber laughed when he said: "Yeah--we wanted to write for grownups." Razz Laughing

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Post  pinhedz on Sun Aug 28, 2011 12:25 pm


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Post  pinhedz on Sun Aug 28, 2011 12:45 pm


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Post  Guest on Sun Aug 28, 2011 1:50 pm

pinhedz wrote:

...I had no idea...this is a contender for my favourite song, and I'd just assumed it was written by John Lennon.

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Post  pinhedz on Sun Aug 28, 2011 2:45 pm

This might be a source document, from the sound of it:


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Post  Guest on Sun Aug 28, 2011 4:18 pm

...this may be an inspirational source:

The Psalms
46
To the chief Musician for the sons of Korah, A Song upon Al'amoth.
(King James Bile)

God is our refuge and strength, a very present help in trouble.

Therefore will not we fear, though the earth be removed,
and though the mountains be carried into the midst of the sea;

Though the waters thereof roar and be troubled,
though the mountains shake with the swelling thereof. Selah.

There is a river, the streams whereof shall make glad the city of God,
the holy place of the tabernacles of the most High.

God is in the midst of her; she shall not be moved:
God shall help her, and that right early.

The heathen raged, the kingdoms were moved:
he uttered his voice, the earth melted.

The LORD of hosts is with us;
the God of Jacob is our refuge. Selah.

Come, behold the works of the LORD,
what desolations he hath made in the earth.

He maketh wars to cease unto the end of the earth;
he breaketh the bow, and cutteth the spear in sunder;
he burneth the chariot in the fire.

Be still, and know that I am God:
I will be exalted among the heathen,
I will be exalted in the earth.

The LORD of hosts is with us;
the God of Jacob is our refuge. Selah.


edit: I had to look up 'selah':

selah
— n
a Hebrew word of unknown meaning
occurring in the Old Testament psalms,
and thought to be a musical direction
[C16: from Hebrew]

selah
1530, Hebrew word occurring frequently
at the end of verse in Psalter. Supposed to be
a liturgical direction, perhaps meaning "pause,"
or perhaps a musical direction to raise the voice
(cf. Heb. base s-l-l "to raise, lift").

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